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ancianita

(36,060 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:12 PM Jan 2020

Almost all Americans don't know the mess John Roberts made. They think it's about this trial. NO.

John Roberts made this mess back in 2000 in Gore v Bush.

Flown in by the two Bush brothers' bad boys, Roberts literally TRAINED the Bush legal team to BEG SCOTUS to override the Supreme Court of Florida ruling to have a complete state recount.

John Roberts knew that if they used the arguments he trained them to use, that Sandra Day O'Connor, and Wm Rehnquist ( whom she called, livid about the FL Supreme Court ruling) -- enraged Federalist Society conservatives -- would chomp at the chance to keep the pro-Bush count as it was.

And so they did. They OVERRULED A STATE SUPREME COURT. The SCOTUS vote was a split.

BUT. When the real vote count continued, and it was found AFTER THE SCOTUS INTERFERENCE WITH THE FLORIDA COUNT, THAT GORE ACTUALLY DID WIN.

Bush, once inaugurated, rewarded John The Pirate Roberts by
a) nominating him to the Supreme Court, and
b) making him Chief Justice.

If John Roberts, Jeb Bush and GWBush had respected Florida's Supreme Court ruling, we wouldn't be going through this today.

Here's where we'd be, instead.

-- We'd have a fully functioning, fully funded government that responds to us and our landbase
-- We'd be ahead of the climate crisis with an already established green new deal;
-- we'd have clean energy utilities;
-- there would have been NO 9/11 and
-- no bank bailouts or debt;
-- so many other good things that would make all Americans healthier and economically well off.
-- Plus high speed rail.

John Roberts -- sitting there in all his fake humility that covers his legal shame, has made that mess. So much for juris "prudence."

Every single American should know what he did.

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Almost all Americans don't know the mess John Roberts made. They think it's about this trial. NO. (Original Post) ancianita Jan 2020 OP
It doesn't matter that he wasn't on SCOTUS. ancianita Jan 2020 #1
K&R. We have the best government billionaires can buy bronxiteforever Jan 2020 #2
Yes, it's pretty much come down to that. ancianita Jan 2020 #3
K & R for truth malaise Jan 2020 #4
So HE'S the Dread Pirate Roberts??? leftieNanner Jan 2020 #5

ancianita

(36,060 posts)
1. It doesn't matter that he wasn't on SCOTUS.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jan 2020

He was material cause of the legal ARGUMENTS and success of the Bush boyz, who couldn't have done
it without him.

He, not they, won the Gore v Bush case and wrecked a perfectly good state supreme court ruling.

Bad ruling from SCOTUS can sometimes be overcome.

This one changed American elections and history for the worse.

Where we are today is more John Roberts' doing than anyone else's.

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