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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTake her out. Neither Lev nor Igor had the authority to fire Yavonovich.
Why isnt this being brought up?
Of course ambassadors work at the pleasure of potus. If he wanted her fired, why didnt he just instruct Pompeo to do it instead of telling Roodies thugs to Take her out.
Were really not that stupid.
LakeArenal
(28,819 posts)we can do it
(12,189 posts)enough
(13,259 posts)He says thats who Trump was giving the order to.
This was on Maddow last night. He named the staffer, but I dont remember the name.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)I mean, ordering it out loud in a group including thugs with connections to Russian intelligence?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)"Parnas has previously described the dinner in interviews, saying he witnessed Trump telling a top aide, John DeStefano, to fire the ambassador." https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/24/politics/trump-phone-call-ukraine-ambassador/index.html
we can do it
(12,189 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)Once you get drawn into the Trump orbit your ass is in danger, and the only way to save it is to throw yourself on the mercy of the courts or the media or someone else who isn't part of the Trump orbit.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)You know he got off on killing Soleimani. He admires that power that Jong Un and Putin have. They can kill anyone who disagrees with them.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)They complained she wouldnt leave.
This was something else.
And whats with the pundits, saying of the new tape...he wanted her fired? He never said fired, his favorite word, on the tape.
Snow job
we can do it
(12,189 posts)Saying she was going to go through some things, and take her out doesnt sound reasonable from the person with the authority to have her reassigned.
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)He believes if he says something - it happens
This is a man who is using his personal counsel to carry out government business - and who firmly believes that the attorney general is there to do his personal bidding.
While I'm sure he would not have been disappointed if she died, he was not ordering a hit. He was ordering her removal from Ukraine, where he viewed her as obstructing his goals.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)That thought belongs in crazy talk/conspiracy theory.
That blustery/crass/ignorant way of speaking - and his ignorance of how things work - is stunning. He wants something done (Ambassador Yovanovitch to stop gumming up the works - he wants it to stop). He's afraid the republican senators might not hold the line He's not going to stop and ask himself who the proper person to fire her is - he's going to blster to whoever is closest to him, or on his mind, or walks in the door next & tell them to get rid of her (meaning make her stop getting in my way.) Just like he threatens Republican senators with their heads on spikes.
Think of how many times he's said something very simliar when protesters sneak into his campaign rallies.
He's just an idioic jerk. He doesn't have the brains, or self-awareness to be an effective mob boss.
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)we can do it
(12,189 posts)wishstar
(5,270 posts)Seems extremely suspicious that instead of simply having John Di Stefano send her notice of reassignment and removing her officially which is done frequently, especially by new presidents as Di Stefano did for Sally Yates, Trump instead carried on a long smear campaign using Giuliani, Don Jr, and rightwingers. Lev said that on numerous occasions in front of Lev and other lowlifes including that guy Robert Hyde who sent Lev the stalking texts, Trump complained about how much he wanted her removed and taken out.
Only conclusion to me was that he wanted the henchmen to intimidate and stalk her and he would have welcomed whatever they cooked up to silence her so she wouldn't be able or she would be afraid to say anything about their nefarious pro-Russia schemes going on.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)There is no reason a man who loves saying youre fired would say take her out, when he could just have her assigned elsewhere. Why bother stalking her? And things can happen in the Ukraine if you have money....Lev saying it wasnt a hit being discussed is the one thing I didnt believe in his interview with Rachel. He didnt want that blame on top of everything else.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)So it wouldn't make much sense to be discussing why Trump told Parnas to get rid of her since that's not what happened according to Parnas himself.
The command was given to Joe DeStefano and asking DeStefano to handle the firing of someone isn't that suprising. DeStefano is the guy that wrote the letter to Sally Yates telling her Trump had fired her. And according to Parnas, DeStefano pushed back on the command because Pompeo was still awaiting confirmation at the time.