I was so happy to get my containers tonight and then I thought, "Jeez".

Ain't that the truth! Wonder if Ivanka's ties will survive a good lysol spray or two!

I add a splash when washing cough exposed vegetables. I switched to frozen mostly & immerse carrots & celery in boiling water for five minutes. I boil frozen berries mix into a compote pour over yogurt

An abundance of caution is a good idea.

Build the immune system. Research onions & fever, garlic and other remedies in case you can’t immediately get an antibiotic for secondary infections. I keep one on hand because of several bad cases of pneumatic as a child. I always get a secondary infection with the flu 😷

I never touch my face eyes mouth. I carry paper towel pieces in case of an itch etc.

Food storage organic Moong Dal, basmati rice, canned no sodium tomatoes, dried shiitake mushrooms, sardines & mustard, gallons of distilled water along with quinoa chickpeas & large bag of Winco bulk dehydrated veggies which I Blentec grind to a powder.

Be prepared. My bug out bag with ID is under my bed.

Safety to you and yours ✨✨🙏✨✨

Especially if you select high heat for washing and drying. Essentially, that sterilizes the items in the dishwasher.

About thirty years ago someone I knew commented that once she started washing her dishes in the dishwasher, the family stopped getting so many colds. Bingo! I always use a dishwasher if I have one. My sister (and we have children the same ages) never uses a dishwasher, and cannot quite understand why her kids constantly have colds. And one keeps on getting scarlet fever. Duh!

Anyway, back to your question. If you're running the things through the dishwasher, nothing else is needed.

You run things through the dishwasher. At high temps. That sterilizes things. Period. Don't need to do it multiple times.

Not long after Trump complained about having to flush his toilet 10 to 15 times to get a good poop flush, he went to bat for women who are stuck with dishwashers where you have to push the buttons about 15 times to make the dishwasher operate.

To make the lightbulb inside come on.

Women keep asking Trump to save them.

Contracted cancer from my neighbor’s windmill

I always run all the glass jars in the dishwasher and leave them in there until I'm ready to start filling them. Then I give the bottled salsa a water bath for a long time since we're at high altitude. But it always starts with sterilizing the jars in the dishwasher.

Thanks!

down on a towel to dry. When I say hot, I mean boiling. Use sterilized tongs to pull them out of the water and drain then. You can also sterilize them be wiping them with 90% alcohol and letting them dry (use latex gloves because the alcohol will de-fat your skin if it contacts it (actually de-oil it).

everything is automated these days.

I've watched a bunch of videos filmed in Chinese factories. Lots of hands on deck. Just do a search at YouTube for <chinese factory>.

But I appreciate your thoughtful reply. Something like my storage bins might never have come near a person, like you say.

Most coronaviruses spread the same way other cold-causing viruses do, through infected people coughing and sneezing, by touching an infected person's hands or face, or by touching things such as doorknobs that infected people have touched.Oct 20, 2017

The current Wuhan variant has not been determined as to transmission vector... but given that even Doctors treating victims are being infected, one can assume that that aerosol transmission is likely.

I wouldn't expect items shipping from factories in China to have the virus on them... but it wouldn't hurt to use a disinfectant wipe on any object shipped and to not handle the packing material.

Mostly the paper masks that you see many people in China wearing are not effective, according to reports. I think this is TBD.

The two facts that are not in dispute is that this virus is very contagious, and, as such viruses go, is fairly lethal especially on older already compromised patients (4% of infected victims have died so far).

And I couldn't be more embarrased.

The 2027-18 flu season was especially severe and did result in 80,000 deaths from influenza & its complications. No where near 8% , that related to another stat & I read too quickly...a bad habit I should break.

But I do appreciate it

I.e far less than 1%. There were 45 million infections and 61,000 deaths.

Based on actual numbers, so far the new coronary has a death rate of 2.77%. (Nearly 20 times higher). It is likely even higher, since the new infections that have not yet had time to kill are included in the total infections.

the number of all respiratory deaths including flu deaths. But also including pneumonia, asthma, etc.

So that 30,000 number we see all the time is very, very inflated.

And would not have occurred but for the flu. I used specifically influenza-associated deaths (which should exclude independent respiratory deaths)

pneumonia and flu. They don't separate out the flu deaths. So that 12K to 56K number, or the 30K number, all of which originated with the CDC, are all extremely inflated.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2017-2018.htm

and using a variety of models to determine what portion of the respitatory deaths are influenza-associated.

Since not all pneumonia that began as the flu will be reported as a an influenza death, they have to use models to estimate the portion of pneumonia deaths that began as influenza.

Thanks so much for your reply. I appreciate it more than you imagine.

entering that phase of life and I have two pre-existing medical conditions now that make me a more "at risk" individual.

and they have not found another host?

and shipping method.

"The life of a virus (technically, viruses are not alive) depends on what type of virus it is, the conditions of the environment it is in, as well as the type of surface it is on. Cold viruses have been shown to survive on indoor surfaces for approximately seven days. Flu viruses, however, are active for only 24 hours."

viruses in the animal world. SARS, as well as the current outbreak are believed to have originated from wild animals that people use as food (the source of the current outbreak is still being confirmed, but early data is indicating that it is from consumption of wild animals). Because it is ingrained in ancient ritual, some people on China eat all type of stuff, rats, bats, salamanders, ect, the article said that the governments consider that a problem, but enforcement to stop it is lax or sporadic.

Was the vector.

It's a simple coronavirus. Big deal.

Maybe people should be more careful around snakes, bats, camels, etc.

Snake and bat meat, so people were sharing recipes while buying and eating the meat.


https://abcnews.go.com/Health/snakes-source-coronavirus-found-china/story?id=68497086

Farmed animals, wild animals, exotic species, mammals, marsupials, birds, fish, reptiles, amphibians, all stewing in their own juices.

If you’re an organism, parasite, virus or what-have-you looking for a host and a place to settle down and mutate, its like Vegas!

For example, primates had the virus that causes HIV and AIDS, but didn't waste away. Also, some people have been found to not be measurably affected by the virus that causes AIDs.

So, isn't it possible that once the virus in China get into humans, it becomes really deadly for some or all people infected at some point.

in China. China is now dictatorship so nothing it says about anything can be trusted.

I just purchased a Eurographics puzzle which was made in the USA and I purchased it thru Amazon.

But I think I'm going to start purchasing some items directly from made in the USA seller websites.

made out of Chinese parts?

or an item assembled in the USA with ONE chinese part?

Good luck!

those related to food prep and cooking. Some things we'll just have to get used from a thriftshop like goodwill or do without.

Well thats what i heard, lol

He's wearing a mask when he goes in now. Just as a precaution.

Enjoy a cold Corona beer after handling any Chinese goods....

That’d be a long time.

It’s a hardy virus that can live for weeks on surfaces.

Door knobs, refrigerator handles, cell phones, keyboards, etc.

I refuse to touch gas pumps. I keep mittens from the dollar store year round in my vehicle and put them on before pumping gas. I don't care if other gas patrons look at me funny in the summer for wearing them while I pump gas.

...so I figure any other germs will have to fight their way in.

Safety first.

All kidding aside, your best prevention is to do what you should be doing for influenza season anyway - wash your hands with soap and water, thoroughly and often.