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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:18 AM Jan 2020

4 Missouri River states unite to try to limit flooding

By GRANT SCHULTE
17 minutes ago

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas and Missouri are joining forces for a study that will look for ways the states can limit flooding along the Missouri River and give them information about how wetter weather patterns could require changes in the way the U.S. government manages the basins reservoirs.

The states are pooling their money to pay for half of a $400,000 study with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to measure how much water flows down the Missouri River.

The states hope to present a united front to federal officials to gain more influence over how the river is managed after devastating floods in 2011 and 2019.

“We’ve got to look at the data, but it’s certainly possible that we’re going to see more wet years,” Republican Nebraska Gov. Ricketts said at a recent media briefing. “We need to collect the data first, and then we can address with the Corps what they ought to be doing.”

https://apnews.com/ffaa76c496a6c855dd3c498a3344d6cd

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4 Missouri River states unite to try to limit flooding (Original Post) turbinetree Jan 2020 OP
My county was without water for 2 months sagesnow Jan 2020 #1
OMG! Bayard Jan 2020 #4
Was amazing how other communities (Omaha and Council Bluffs) helped by sending sagesnow Jan 2020 #8
I live near the Missouri River. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2020 #2
A good friend is a levee engineer and says it's going to be hard Drahthaardogs Jan 2020 #3
Excuse my density. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2020 #6
Flooding began last March when the cyclone blizzard Drahthaardogs Jan 2020 #10
Thanks for the info. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2020 #11
Are the folks in these states waking up to climate change yet? Bayard Jan 2020 #5
Maybe they should ask there Federal senators and congressional people................... turbinetree Jan 2020 #7
The St. Lawrence River on the CA border was about a foot too high all last summer. lindysalsagal Jan 2020 #9
They could start by maxrandb Jan 2020 #12
You don't need a study. Restore flood plains and buy out homeowners in them NickB79 Jan 2020 #13

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
1. My county was without water for 2 months
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jan 2020

last spring. Was frustrating not to be able to wash clothes, make coffee or flush the toilet for that length of time. Makes me fearful that it will happen again because no real changes have been made to protect our water sanitation station from the next flood.

Bayard

(22,102 posts)
4. OMG!
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jan 2020

What did you do? Especially that part about not being able to flush your toilet for 2 months? Mine was down for 2 days last month with a septic problem, and I thought I was going to die.

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
8. Was amazing how other communities (Omaha and Council Bluffs) helped by sending
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jan 2020

bottled drinking water which we had to pick up at the downtown parking lot. We were limited by the honor system to not flush anymore than we had to and to shower as little as possible. Huge semi-water tankers drew water from another town's water supply and they worked around the clock to pour water into the water system to keep it open and going. Although the water from the tap appeared clear, the water was not drinkable and we were told it was not safe to shower in. Wet wipes "shower in a bottle" worked and friends in other towns offered shower facilities.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. I live near the Missouri River.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jan 2020

There has been quite a bit of activity along the river bank for about a month now. They seem to be cleaning and dredging the shoreline. My guess would be getting ready for spring snowmelt to head our way.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
3. A good friend is a levee engineer and says it's going to be hard
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jan 2020

The 2011 flood was a 1000 year event, but it was a localized event...11 inches of rain in Montana in 24 hours. It was devastating but one huge rush of water. Waters receded and levees repaired.

This event is much different as the rains never stopped. Getting to the levees has been difficult to impossible. He did say the mild winter has helped.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. Excuse my density.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jan 2020

But, in your second paragraph, you say “this event”. Are you talking about something that is happening now?

Because that would explain the recent activity near me (Northwest Missouri). They are preparing for something.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
10. Flooding began last March when the cyclone blizzard
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jan 2020

Dumped 6 inches of rain on 18 inches of snow. The event crested levees, and once a levee is crested, it's done. They broke. We had a very very wet spring and summer, the flood waters never receded and the event was below the mainstem dams, so no way to control. Waters stayed high until October when they finally started to drop. It's essentially been a flood fight since March. Pray for a sry spring.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
11. Thanks for the info.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jan 2020

I have been through a long term flood event (flood of 1993) and it is horrible.

Blessing to you, and prayers for a dry spring.

Bayard

(22,102 posts)
5. Are the folks in these states waking up to climate change yet?
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jan 2020

A study is not going to solve the problem.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
7. Maybe they should ask there Federal senators and congressional people...................
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jan 2020

what they think ...........................especially all of those folks near Nebraska’s Offutt Air Force Base, its on flood plain ................and then maybe they can think outside the box and think how much it is going to cost them to reinforce the seal wall at lets say Norfolk or San Diego or Hawaii............................to solve the problem........................... ...............

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
9. The St. Lawrence River on the CA border was about a foot too high all last summer.
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jan 2020

Millions of dollars of damage and property losses.

Glad I own a tiny RV I can move!

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
12. They could start by
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jan 2020
STOP ELECTING RETRUMPLICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
13. You don't need a study. Restore flood plains and buy out homeowners in them
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jan 2020

This is pretty basic stuff here, because it's already been studied repeatedly. We've cleared floodplain forests, filled in marshes, and plowed up riparian prairie for farming, and built towns in areas too prone to flooding for a century.

The only lasting solution is to buy back vast stretches of farmland, and buy out homeowners, to allow the land to return to storing and slowing floodwaters. If anyone doesn't want to move, let their insurance rates skyrocket and suffer the consequences.

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