trump.

Some of the farmers are disillusioned and moving away from him.

...though he’s betrayed the country and everyone in it. At least we never worshipped him, transparent bullshit artist as he is, with a documented history of so much scoundrelism, if they’d just open their eyes...

and the betrayal of the Kurds.

The denigration and fleecing of the national defense makes me madder than all get out!

And I’m not even a veteran, though i am married to one.

I like the idea of focusing on one issue at a time. Find the weakest links, apply maximum pressure, and break the chain.

And the second amendment zealots. They are part of the Trump Cult. But the military, which is traditionally conservative but sane and patriotic, could really get angry at the multiple betrayals and thoughtless dismissiveness of Trump. A well produced video on TV would push the issue.

Too many of them don’t know, because they watch fox/listen to limpbutt and aren’t receiving fact based information.

The propaganda that’s eaten our Public Squares is what has enraged me for decades. It’s a major reason we’re in the mess we’re at.

only do the right thing when it affects them personally.

I'm all the time seeing right wing bullshit memes on facebook, but seldom see anything from the left. I'd have to guess that russian troll bots are behind much of this.

In any case, I wish we had more 'facebook ready' material would could use to counter the right wing propaganda out there.

Betrayal would be huge also, of course, but we see how often they accept the lies that come with betrayal to justify and/or deny it. That's been happening from the beginning, but the 80% of conservatives still approving Trump will vote to continue it.

The end is far more likely when they finally come to realize their "strong man" isn't and isn't going to pull victory out of a hat and smite us with it.

Religion isn't the opiate of the people, it's more basic: It's lies. Secular, religious, appeals to hate, appeals to idealism, whatever lies work.

They thought they backed a winner, not a loser. Personal reflection on them, and they hate it

protecting all that's good about America against our assaults, and would support almost anything der leader did.



Should throw in somewhere, of course, that these are not the more moderate and less authoritarian conservatives who've been backing away. Unfortunately a minority, but we do see representatives of those on talk shows every day.

their particular ox gets gored .

The relatively-healthy Trumpies are still with Donnie. Native-born, long settled Trumpie families are still with him. Rural Trumpies who don’t think their livelihoods depend on farm spending are still with him. Florida Trumpies living far enough from the Sunshine State’s beaches not to notice the reek of red-tide dead fish are still with him.

Team Donkey probably won’t get most Trumpies to wise up, but if we register new voters and peel away gored and still-hurting Trump voters, we’ll have a good chance of ending the reign of Orange Julius.

They will have to be hurt a lot to give up on Trump. Unfortunately, everyone else gets hurt also. Medicaid, especially, pays the bills for those who need care for elderly parents or family members who are disabled. These statistics are from 2017, but the Kaiser Foundation reported that typical nursing home annual costs of $82,000 were almost three times the annual income of average seniors. Medicaid paid 62% of nursing home costs. I suspect the figures are higher now because costs have increased and our population is aging. Cuts to Medicaid will hit a lot of Trump supporters hard.

they effect people they want punished. That's it.

....and the Big Fool says, "March on!"

And Donald's ridicule of all POWs for getting themselves captured.

He says flat out that they are heroes only because they were captured.

MAGAzi's thought they were getting an anti-Washington president. Now we see GOP Washington power elites servicing Trump's every need and desire as they ail to deliver for MAGAzi's. You'd think they would wake up after awhile.

I think this is a good plan.

Trump betrays everyone. It is just a matter of time.

because of his minimizing the traumatic brain injuries of soldiers in Iraq. His actions directly caused it.

We need to get lots more to peel away.

Peel them off! Even if they will not vote democratic party have them demoralized and stay home.

It is no accident that he uses the word "lies" in so many of his tweets. It is ingrained in their minds that EVERY disparaging word against him is a lie.

How much more deception will it take?

Maybe Bloomberg could contribute and focus on this aspect. Honestly, every area of this 'maladministration' would suffer from examination, illumination and magnification of decisions made and actions taken. Very damaging to our country.

Why do our military bases in that theater not have anti-missile interceptors in place to shoot down missiles fired from Iran. Just think if Iran would have targeted the military barracks.

Here is Mayor Pete's take on Trump's attitude toward TBI/veterans issues (which he says make his blood boil). I'm with you, Major Pete. Add to your list: the mercenary nature of sending troops to countries that pay for their services (think Saudi Arabia), and pillaging (we've got the oil) countries (think northern Iraq) who ask for and receive our help. It is always, only about the money because Trump knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

We must have mind melded because I’ve been writing a post on-and-off for the last two days about the exact same thing! You inspired me me to finally finish it and I’ll be posting it after one final round of edits.

Great post! You are spot-on.

... I'm sure that's been repeated in the enlisted ranks since Alexander the Great. Maybe even muttered among field-grade officers.

Use video. Use audio. Use photos. Pretend like you are trying to on brainwash someone.

actually learning how someone is de-programmed might be a good thing to look into in trying to get some of these Trump voters back from the edge.