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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 06:17 PM Jan 2020

Max Boot's apology to Rex Tillerson

Max Boot
Columnist
Jan. 26, 2020 at 2:06 p.m. EST

... I’m not apologizing for writing that he was “quite possibly the most ineffectual secretary of state since America’s rise to global prominence in 1898” ... But I am apologizing for underestimating his virtues ... I miss ol’ Rex and his Boy Scout ethos ...

... Tillerson might not have known what he was doing ... but he was at least ethical and well-intentioned — and not afraid to stand up to President Trump ... Tillerson was the only person with the guts to chew out Trump when the president denounced senior generals as a “bunch of dopes and babies” in a Pentagon meeting ...

... a former senior White House official described Pompeo as “among the most sycophantic and obsequious people around Trump.” That’s saying something, because Trump is surrounded by more servile courtiers than a medieval monarch.

While Tillerson worked to restrain Trump from leaving the Iran nuclear deal and the Paris climate accord, Pompeo has been nothing but a smirking cheerleader for the president’s most pugnacious instincts. He is, in fact, the mastermind behind a standoff that has left Iran closer to having a nuclear weapon than when Trump took office ...

Pompeo’s rise to preeminence has not served either the president or the country well. The secretary of state had a front-row seat to Trump’s efforts to blackmail Ukraine into announcing an investigation of Joe Biden ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/26/every-day-that-pompeo-stays-office-he-makes-tillerson-look-better-by-comparison/

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Max Boot's apology to Rex Tillerson (Original Post) struggle4progress Jan 2020 OP
⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Jan 2020 #1
K&R. (nt) Paladin Jan 2020 #2
KnR Hekate Jan 2020 #3
All I can say is we've fallen a helluva distance...... Arthur_Frain Jan 2020 #4
Oh yeah PatSeg Jan 2020 #5
I'm all for giving credit Arthur_Frain Jan 2020 #21
Oh definitely PatSeg Jan 2020 #22
+100 Duppers Jan 2020 #23
This. Hell, George C. Wallace looks good compared this the Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #6
Attila the Hun looks like a choir boy next to Mango Mussolini. magicarpet Jan 2020 #14
That bar is in frickin' China MH1 Jan 2020 #24
you don't need competence or ethics when your goals maxsolomon Jan 2020 #7
+ struggle4progress Jan 2020 #8
We were safer with Tillerson, but zentrum Jan 2020 #9
Be sure to read Blowout leftieNanner Jan 2020 #13
When they televised the circle jerk.... Toorich Jan 2020 #10
I thought he kept his lips pretty much to himself lunatica Jan 2020 #11
That was embarrassing to watch. calimary Jan 2020 #20
"among the most sycophantic and obsequious people around Trump." keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #12
Yap-pity,.... yap-pity - yap,... magicarpet Jan 2020 #15
preznit snowflake needs yes men. pansypoo53219 Jan 2020 #16
Never Trumpers do have a way with words. Nt spooky3 Jan 2020 #17
I'll give Rex a point for "He's a fucking moron." Buns_of_Fire Jan 2020 #18
Yeah, it took Mike Pompeo to make Rex "Wayne Tracker" Tillerson look marginally acceptable gratuitous Jan 2020 #19

Arthur_Frain

(1,853 posts)
4. All I can say is we've fallen a helluva distance......
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jan 2020

when I read articles saying “Now with Trump, George W. don’t look so bad, does he”, or “sure do miss Tillerson’s Boy Scout ethos, when compared to Pompeo”.

This bar is set so low......

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
5. Oh yeah
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:19 PM
Jan 2020

Whenever someone says that about GW Bush, I remind them that he was just as bad as we thought he was and hundreds of thousands of people died because of his reckless rush to war. He was a terrible president, whereas Trump is flat out a terrible human being in every respect.

As for Rex, he wasn't a very effective Secretary of State, but reading about him in the new book, A Stable Genius, I can see he was principled and he stood up to Trump more than once. So I will give him some credit, he just was a bad choice for that position. Pompeo may been more prepared for the position, but he is corrupt and compromised.

Arthur_Frain

(1,853 posts)
21. I'm all for giving credit
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 10:04 PM
Jan 2020

And maybe Tillerson deserves some. But we allow the rest of these shit-wits to rehab their images at our peril. When this is over, people need to be held accountable, that’s why we are where we are, because there is always this “let’s take the high road and look forward, not back” bullshit.

Bullshit.

People who try to destroy my country in this way have got some payback coming.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
22. Oh definitely
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jan 2020

I remember how outraged many of us were when no one was held accountable for the corruption of the Bush administration. I understand the whole "looking forward" mindset, but by letting so many people off the hook, we set the stage for what we are experiencing today. Torture, black sites, the financial meltdown, and pretty much anything to do with Iraq - no repercussions, no consequences, making it acceptable to be lawless and corrupt.

If there are no meaningful consequences, it just gives people permission to break the law.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
6. This. Hell, George C. Wallace looks good compared this the
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:20 PM
Jan 2020

POS that is consider by some to be POTUS now. It's very sad, indeed.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
9. We were safer with Tillerson, but
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:39 PM
Jan 2020

.....will never trust the top executive of Exxon and their fomenting of oil wars for the purpose of having their damn pipelines from Russia through Ukraine, the Middle East and the Arctic.

leftieNanner

(15,124 posts)
13. Be sure to read Blowout
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:34 PM
Jan 2020

Rachel Maddow's book about the oil and gas industry. It will open your eyes even more!

Toorich

(391 posts)
10. When they televised the circle jerk....
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:03 PM
Jan 2020

.... at the Cabinet meeting where they went around the table and professed that
they were so blessed that the Tangerine Turd was their wonderful Master - did
Tillerson participate in that public fellating?

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
12. "among the most sycophantic and obsequious people around Trump."
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jan 2020

“among the most sycophantic and obsequious people around Trump.”

I nominate Reince Priebus and/or Pence.

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/06/donald-trump-hosts-propaganda-cabinet

Towards the end, Reince Priebus became one of the major suck-ups in the room saying, "On behalf of the entire senior staff around you, Mr. President, we thank you for the opportunity and blessing you've given us to serve your agenda and the american people and we're continuing to work very hard every day to accomplish those goals."

Vice President Pence opened up by saying, "Thank you, Mr. President. The greatest privilege of my life to serve as vice president to a president who is keeping his word to the American people. and assembling a team that's bringing real change, real prosperity, real strength back to our nation."

Buns_of_Fire

(17,183 posts)
18. I'll give Rex a point for "He's a fucking moron."
Sun Jan 26, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jan 2020

One of the first indications that not everyone found Rump's rump all that tasty.

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