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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFormer CIA Station Chief in Moscow: Trump is a Russian Agent
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Take what Rolf Mowatt-Larssen says VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY 😳👇🏼
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NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)grumpyduck
(6,249 posts)The Russians are too smart to have a dumbshit like him as an agent. It's too dangerous. He's just a lackey and they're playing him. He probably doesn't even understand what they're doing.
Xolodno
(6,398 posts)....useful idiot.
Grokenstein
(5,727 posts)...Reducing himself to a gibbering, snuffling, utterly-incompetent parody of a human being like that.
certainot
(9,090 posts)under our noses.
sam nunberg says he "listened to 1000s of hours of talk radio" in 2014 and trump "was getting reports from" him
that was the same year a russian troll said they "got a list of topics to write about"
all this shit is based in talk radio repetition. llmbaugh started with the 'deep state' bullshit (prob from russia) near inauguration and all the russians have to do is get someone like john solomon or jerome corsi to write about biden and hillary ukraine corruption and the next week limbaugh gets it going on 1500 radio stations for a year +, trump and his dittohead admin just follow the scripts and the dittoheads gave it enough inertia to put it all on the floor of the senate, like a big pile of shit under the carpet that smart republicans know is the only advantage they have and won't have to give up until democrats stop ignoring it
Arthur_Frain
(1,856 posts)All those books written on human psychology started being put to heavy use by someone who recognized early on the impact that properly structured right wing talk radio could have on a significant portion of the electorate.
Introduce the appropriate stressors and they can predict what you will do in a given situation an alarming percentage of the time. Anyone who listens to talk radio can be affected. Its just predominantly evident in conservatives because of their mindset.
Ive watched it happen to my mother. She raised me with a liberal, upbeat outlook on life. I caught her listening to Savage some time ago and warned her that sooner or later, she would find his words coming out of her mouth. Sure enough, they got her. She defended W, and fervently hoped with trump that the office would make the man.
And as destructive as it is, this behavior is affirming for them. You cant get them to not think this way once the grooming has taken over.
certainot
(9,090 posts)impatient satisfaction-demanding reproductive urges through parts of the brain normally used for rational logical thought, often emphasized in the left brain, because 90% of humans learn sex with the right hand
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Aren't we lucky!
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)Trump is in construction business, which requires lots of money in the form of loans.
bdamomma
(63,919 posts)some compliments and he's putty in your hands.
The Russians are rolling over with laughter.
triron
(22,019 posts)Somehow, some internet posters are smarter than the real professionals.
Curious, isn't it?
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)Trump's too dumb and waaayyy too talkative to be an agent. But he is motivated solely by his own self-interest and that plays right into Putin's hands. I think it's entirely possible that Trump is so indebt to Russian oligarchs tied to Putin via Deutchebank that he's not going to do anything that might pull that rug out from under himself.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)If he says that Trump is a Russian Agent (as opposed to a useful idiot) - believe it.
He would have used the term useful idiot if that was the case.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)calimary
(81,443 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Agent,useful Idiot,Compromised POS,all the same.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,831 posts)But he's definitely an asset.
crickets
(25,983 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)100%
patphil
(6,206 posts)But he's no agent. Far too stupid.
Kid Berwyn
(14,953 posts)Traitor.
sandensea
(21,658 posts)groundloop
(11,521 posts)sandensea
(21,658 posts)Plus whoever else he gets his way with these days.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)Remember her father is/was a member of the communist party. IIRC, she's also pals with Wendy Deng, a suspected Chinese agent, via Rupert Murdoch.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)sandensea
(21,658 posts)Anything for a ruble, these Trumps.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)marlakay
(11,486 posts)I think she was willing to marry any man with money no matter how ugly to become citizen then divorce.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,170 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Is the name my 14 year old son uses with telemarketers and scammers. Hes so convincing that we now get mail addressed to Mr. Hugh Janus...off topic, I know but your post made me laugh thinking of it...
teamster633
(2,029 posts)Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)bdamomma
(63,919 posts)just like him.
yuiyoshida
(41,853 posts)stopdiggin
(11,358 posts)other than to himself. I doubt that the concept has any true weight or meaning for him. He would no doubt regard whatever relationship he has with Russia (or any other polity, including the U.S.) as transactional.
keithbvadu2
(36,890 posts)moondust
(20,003 posts)With few exceptions and despite his phony denials, his words and actions always seem to be favorable to Putin. Probably more like a useful idiot.
wnylib
(21,593 posts)result is the same as being an agent.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,771 posts)Response to CousinIT (Original post)
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PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)Enoki33
(1,587 posts)does not have the intelligence, training or discipline to be an agent. His useful idiot persona wrapping is part of the package. The stark fact is that he has betrayed this country, and continues to do so, with impunity.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)elias7
(4,026 posts)He knows who owns him and they absolutely would have compromat on him, because that is what the Russian mob does. Hes smart enough not to betray Epstein or anyone else who has power over him. Remember that he is a malignant narcissist, i.e. everything he does is in his own interest.
I dont buy the useful idiot argument, as he has broken law after law after law for decades and has avoided serious penalty. He doesnt need to have a hidden Russian passport and secretly speak Russian to be an agent. He knows Russia - Putin, Mogilevich, etc. have supported him all these years, knows they have the goods on all they have done for him and all he has done to compromise himself- they tell him what to do, he does it, simple as that.
Hekate
(90,780 posts)fifty8bar
(14 posts)Russian asset? Definitely.
Kitchari
(2,168 posts)I mean Asset
matt819
(10,749 posts)If the COS Moscow identifies an American citizen as a Russian asset, he informs CIA hq. At that point, the agency is likely to inform the fbi, as it becomes a counter intelligence matter. Whether the Russian asset is Donald trump or Donald Duck, it is highly unlikely that the agency would keep this information to itself.
So, at some point fbi has this info and, in turn fbi counterintelligence. They are likely to coordinate with agency counterintelligence on the case, which would, in any case, be very closely held.
So there would now be at least a small handful of people who know this, probably including the attorney general at least at the time this information was reported.
Btw, if trump is described as an asset, he is an asset. There is other terminology that is likely to have been used if he was merely unwitting.
Now, what we need us a book on this element of the farce they is known as the trump administration.
sab390
(185 posts)There is now a group of people, Murdock, Putin, all of the world members of wealth and privilege, who are out to rule the world. I know, this sounds like a nuts conspiracy like Q anon, but 2000 people hold more money than 4 billion. The country has not been represented by the majority vote for 20 years. Millions of Americans suffer and still vote for this garbage. It's not Russia, it's all of wealth and privilege, everywhere, united against the people. Trump is not the asset, he is just one member of the team. McTurtle, Barr, Kavanaugh, they are all on the same team. And they are winning.
bdamomma
(63,919 posts)in your summation. But then again, the people rise up. I believe in power in numbers.
We are not in the club, as George Carlin said.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)ancianita
(36,132 posts)Trump's repeating of Russian talking points on NATO is a dead give away.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)His goal is deconstruction of administrative state; destroying US constitution is at the heart of it.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)tried to give me grief about stating the obvious.
LessAspin
(1,156 posts)ancianita
(36,132 posts)him that points to both Trump and Putin serving other paymasters (for lack of a better word) for "our new world," and "on behalf of a common cause."
https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column/moscow-station/top-presidential-leadership-helsinki-summit
Google images has him splashed evenly across rt, twitter, FB, foreign policy and deepstateblog -- all with equal quality photography production values, and nothing from any major journalism org.
He's had a page on the Harvard Gazette; who he is in relation to the staff writers isn't clear, but it's clear that they write under his banner.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/tag/rolf-mowatt-larssen/
A Twitter page (with Kobe Bryant trending in 2019)
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So I'm thinking the public has to know more about this guy, and whether or not this Bolton thing and he have connection. And who he really is, overall, not what personas he plays in various arenas -- academic, intel, Davos darling, or what ...
This is the first I've heard of him, but he's on the edges of stuff I think we'd better learn more about.
triron
(22,019 posts)ancianita
(36,132 posts)who want to preserve a constitutional republic.
I'm so glad you see this for what it looks like.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)*but in a traitorous way
That could be the secret source of energy that keeps him going every day. And his cover is he's just this dumb, buffoonish, loud, insulting blowhard from Queens. Maybe it's brilliant. I don't know.. :p