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****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/27/20 THREAD 3**** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 OP
Drumpf attorney Jane Raskin is continuing the defense and has focused on Ghouliani BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #1
Apparently Dems have portrayed Rudy's behavior in an unfair context. crickets Jan 2020 #2
Yes! They pounded the table even!!1111!!!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #5
that proves it right there bdamomma Jan 2020 #25
Yea, she said there was shouting and table Karma13612 Jan 2020 #86
She just quoted that debunked Conspiracy Theory pushed by that malaise Jan 2020 #7
Hey GOP! Rudy isn't the one on trial here. GoCubsGo Jan 2020 #26
Is this finally Rudy's underbussing? dpibel Jan 2020 #3
Jane anti-Raskin. dchill Jan 2020 #4
In her ghouliani can do no wrong Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2020 #6
If only someone could play the latest clip from Fox and Friends... crickets Jan 2020 #13
Is Raskiin throwing Ghouliani under the bus? Pachamama Jan 2020 #8
Rudy Mossfern Jan 2020 #9
Raskin is done and Suckylow is up - to supposedly introduce the next one to discuss "the law" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #10
'The Law,' now. elleng Jan 2020 #11
And now Patrick Philbin is up to supposedly discuss "the law" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #12
I'm trying to remember H2O Man Jan 2020 #51
Fred Rogers BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #66
I'm not sure ..... H2O Man Jan 2020 #95
Philbin sounds like some of my professors in college at140 Jan 2020 #60
Whoa. Up is down, black is white, Clarence Darrow had rudy in mind. Mersky Jan 2020 #14
evil lawyer Bill Nye Kali Jan 2020 #15
LOL Mersky Jan 2020 #18
WTF is he talking about BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #16
What utter BS now about right to counsel and cross examination crickets Jan 2020 #22
You nailed it. Karma13612 Jan 2020 #96
Wow! The law part is just as limp if not limper than the constitutional stuff. hedda_foil Jan 2020 #17
It's not just "limp". It's completely bogus. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #19
How this fellow does not expire of embarrassment, I will never understand. crickets Jan 2020 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Mersky Jan 2020 #20
I think that was an old clip BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #21
Was it? I couldn't exactly tell. I thought it was scalia? Mersky Jan 2020 #24
It was Nadler. crickets Jan 2020 #30
He mentioned Nadler's name after the clip got gummed up. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #32
Ah, heck, okay Mersky Jan 2020 #36
Thankfully I don't think CSPAN2 put up any pic of Scalia when the name came up earlier. BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #39
Wow, I guess so!😮 Karma13612 Jan 2020 #103
You have a strong stomach bdamomma Jan 2020 #23
So he's making the case Mossfern Jan 2020 #27
Smoke and mirrors Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2020 #31
you have to have blinders on and your lips attatched to an orange butt cheek to understand Kali Jan 2020 #34
This level of projection is actually making the Democrats' case in some spots. crickets Jan 2020 #35
blah blah blah due process Kali Jan 2020 #29
They have no defense . . . Iliyah Jan 2020 #33
Since when does the OMB tell the House how to crickets Jan 2020 #37
It's the UNITARY EXECUTIVE BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #42
Gotcha. I thought I smelled Bill Barr in there somewhere. nt crickets Jan 2020 #48
omg claiming committees not authorized! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #38
I really hope that someone can get thousands of lawyers to sign a letter BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #40
I do not envy Con law professors right now. crickets Jan 2020 #50
That would be the perfect exercise and assignment BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #54
This is the old practice of baffling them with bullshit. I would dare any Magat ooky Jan 2020 #41
name change needed: Phildabinwidbullshit Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #45
ZACLY!!! elleng Jan 2020 #72
only PBS left locally while Full-o-bull Philbin natters on Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #43
listing all the ways they obstructed Kali Jan 2020 #44
This idiot has yet to say that Drumpf did NOT assert "Executive Privilege" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #46
I was out for a while. Did he say something about negotiating testimony? nolabear Jan 2020 #47
as it related to their stupid claim of no due process Kali Jan 2020 #49
They're going to hurt themselves twisting like that. nolabear Jan 2020 #52
sure hope so Kali Jan 2020 #55
And his talking about "agency lawyers" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #53
I swear the last slide was essentially saying on behalf of Trump crickets Jan 2020 #56
did Phul-a-bull just say the founding was in 1796? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #57
Yes, he did. crickets Jan 2020 #64
1796 twas the 3rd presidential election. he brain-deaded his own silly self. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #69
gee 3 years in is "jumping straight to impeachment"? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #58
It is 4:15 ET right now. Anyone know about how long until the next break? hlthe2b Jan 2020 #59
I *think* I heard 'til 6pm. nt blaze Jan 2020 #62
The House becomes supreme BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #61
Right now I am reading Federalist 51 crickets Jan 2020 #70
I know I need a nap BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #73
I've been checking in now and again and have yet to hear any defense. Vinca Jan 2020 #63
There is no defense for trump... so they're attacking the process. blaze Jan 2020 #65
They aren't just attacking the process BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #75
My husband has been wondering why Roberts doesn't say something when stuff like that comes up. Vinca Jan 2020 #108
A Senate Impeachment trial is not really like a "court of law" BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #109
LOL! Kali Jan 2020 #67
distraction from Bolton Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #68
+1 crickets Jan 2020 #71
their basic defense today: We're full of shit so you must acquit. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #74
Philbin is done with his made up shit. Now Suckylow is up BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #76
They keep saying "Executive Privilege" but Drumpf DID NOT INVOKE IT BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #77
That's what I was hollering back at the tv Mersky Jan 2020 #82
I heard your hollering BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #91
Good grief, we've heard some hours of lying, spin, and smears from republicans Mersky Jan 2020 #106
And now Florida is in the house - Pam Bondi BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #78
bet orange trumPutin is enraged ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #84
Bought and paid for by Trump years ago. Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #102
To sum up, they're claiming that Trump is accused of high crimes and midemeanors crickets Jan 2020 #79
Fox and Friends stepford clone? Oh, it's Bondi, the bribed DA Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #80
THAT is PAM BONDI !!!! pangaia Jan 2020 #81
She's better at counting. crickets Jan 2020 #83
So cazn my 7 year od nephew... pangaia Jan 2020 #87
Bondi has Trump's money in her pocket. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2020 #105
meow Kali Jan 2020 #85
LOL! I think you're right! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #88
yes MFGsunny Jan 2020 #100
Bwah! Mersky Jan 2020 #101
Why is she talking about Hunter Mossfern Jan 2020 #89
'because' elleng Jan 2020 #90
Burisma! Corruption! crickets Jan 2020 #94
Complete nonsense underpants Jan 2020 #107
Ah... Mossfern Jan 2020 #92
Here comes the CT BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #93
All the broadcast networks must've cut away after the 1st DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #97
****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/27/20 THREAD 4**** UP BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #98
None of this excuses Mossfern Jan 2020 #99
No, it doesn't. nt crickets Jan 2020 #104

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
86. Yea, she said there was shouting and table
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jan 2020

Pounding.

I only recall the likes of Devin (Chalupa!!!) Nunes and Gym (shorts but no jacket) Jordan doing some yelling. Oh heavens, can’t forget Doug (this chair sucks) Collins as either!

They are so flipping hypocritical.

GoCubsGo

(32,088 posts)
26. Hey GOP! Rudy isn't the one on trial here.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jan 2020

How about defending Fat Bastard, who is the actual subject here? Oh, wait! You can't.

dpibel

(2,852 posts)
3. Is this finally Rudy's underbussing?
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:31 PM
Jan 2020

She quotes Volker saying he thought Giuliani was pursuing his own ends, not those of our pure leader.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
6. In her ghouliani can do no wrong
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jan 2020

Will she mention all this evidence he claims (and was already ) supposed to have been made public on Biden illegal activity???!

Mossfern

(2,550 posts)
9. Rudy
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jan 2020

As Trumps personal lawyer was investigating foreign investigation in Ukraine. Is that what a personal layer does?
Guiliani is anything but sparkly, BTW

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
10. Raskin is done and Suckylow is up - to supposedly introduce the next one to discuss "the law"
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jan 2020

(as they make it up)

H2O Man

(73,602 posts)
51. I'm trying to remember
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jan 2020

who this charismatic, dynamic powerhouse reminds me of. I think it was Ed Sullivan's assistant in the movie "The Doors."

H2O Man

(73,602 posts)
95. I'm not sure .....
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jan 2020

I am only somewhat familiar with him, by reputation. But my impression is that he was honest, and could be trusted around children.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
14. Whoa. Up is down, black is white, Clarence Darrow had rudy in mind.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jan 2020

That was some ministry of truth shit.

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
16. WTF is he talking about
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jan 2020

The courts did NOT tell the House HOW to do their business.

NO. Committees do NOT have to have the full House vote on a subpoena.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
22. What utter BS now about right to counsel and cross examination
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jan 2020

The House had no recourse to a special investigator, and so had to do its own investigations. Witnesses were deposed behind closed doors to keep them from lining up their stories. Both parties were allowed to be present as members of appropriate committees, and the witnesses all had access to counsel. Of course the president was excluded. This was not the time for any of the other BS he's talking about and this earnest little jackhole knows that.

Blatant lies like this ought to get you censured for ethics violations at the very least.

[and again, the main argument is just, 'unfair!!']

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
96. You nailed it.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jan 2020

They keep repeating this same defense to make sure all of Trump’s base hears it at some point.

Guess since it’s Roberts’ birthday, he’s going to give the defense a break on lies in a court room.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
17. Wow! The law part is just as limp if not limper than the constitutional stuff.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jan 2020

This is beyond nonsensical.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
28. How this fellow does not expire of embarrassment, I will never understand.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:47 PM
Jan 2020

It takes a special talent to bulldoze this many lies at the people. Certainly no conscience there.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
32. He mentioned Nadler's name after the clip got gummed up.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:48 PM
Jan 2020

Nadler has lost quite a bit of weight over the past couple years.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
36. Ah, heck, okay
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:52 PM
Jan 2020

I was up and down from the tv when that came up. Was really wanting to rip on scalia. I’m gonna take a five minute break to eh, try to sync back in. Thanks for clearing that up.

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
103. Wow, I guess so!😮
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jan 2020

You can see he still has a bit of weight around his mid section. But, man thats a big difference.

Good for him, he might have lengthened his life by losing that much.

Mossfern

(2,550 posts)
27. So he's making the case
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jan 2020

for calling witnesses - right?

I don't know this, can some one tell me how Trump was "locked out?"

Kali

(55,019 posts)
34. you have to have blinders on and your lips attatched to an orange butt cheek to understand
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:49 PM
Jan 2020

it's all

crickets

(25,983 posts)
37. Since when does the OMB tell the House how to
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:54 PM
Jan 2020

handle an impeachment investigation?

Since when does the Office of Legal Counsel get to make up new rules about who can and cannot ignore a subpoena? [This one's rhetorical. Kinda.]

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,413 posts)
38. omg claiming committees not authorized!
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jan 2020

Even an asshole of a lawyer should understand "sole power of impeachment" and "may determine the rules of its proceedings".

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
40. I really hope that someone can get thousands of lawyers to sign a letter
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jan 2020

to completely destroy these idiots.

They are truly doing a disservice to all the history, government, and legal teaching community who will have to do a Yoda on the students when trying to explain this bullshit that is going on right now -

crickets

(25,983 posts)
50. I do not envy Con law professors right now.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jan 2020

On the other hand, what better teaching aid than tearing apart this bull patooty?

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
54. That would be the perfect exercise and assignment
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jan 2020

Go look up the past precedent and the (bullshit) "theories" that were proffered today, and compare and contrast.

ooky

(8,928 posts)
41. This is the old practice of baffling them with bullshit. I would dare any Magat
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jan 2020

to repeat this argument back.

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
46. This idiot has yet to say that Drumpf did NOT assert "Executive Privilege"
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jan 2020

THAT is the problem here.

Ordering NO ONE to testify is NOT the same as "asserting Executive Privilege".

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
47. I was out for a while. Did he say something about negotiating testimony?
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jan 2020

May I assume he didn’t mean Bolton?

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
53. And his talking about "agency lawyers"
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:08 PM
Jan 2020

YES agency lawyers are there to advise employees about what they can and cannot discuss when it comes to a hearing (factoring in any "Executive Privilege". We see HUNDREDS of hearings every year where you see this.

But again, the PROBLEM here is that not only was Executive Privilege NOT invoked, but ALL employees were "ordered" not to "testify" AT ALL. So baffling people with bullshit about "agency lawyers" is just filler for something that does not apply.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
56. I swear the last slide was essentially saying on behalf of Trump
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:11 PM
Jan 2020

"You can't punish meeee! It's not allowed!"

Wacky.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
64. Yes, he did.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jan 2020

That was the date of Washington's farewell address, not the founding, (1776 declaration/1783 independence) so I think somebody got his dates mixed up.

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
61. The House becomes supreme
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jan 2020

YES DUMBASS - For ITS role. THAT is what "CHECK AND BALANCE" means. THAT branch was ALSO "Article I" - THE FIRST. And the Executive was Article II (to make it plain that the PEOPLE were primary) and not to encourage a monarch.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
70. Right now I am reading Federalist 51
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jan 2020

on the screen about separation of powers and encroachment, and I do not even want to read whatever nonsense is in the closed captions. I think I need a nap.

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
73. I know I need a nap
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jan 2020


(law schools, schools of government, and high schools everywhere are gonna have to do some serious damage control)

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
63. I've been checking in now and again and have yet to hear any defense.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jan 2020

Are they just racking up billable hours or what? They ought to know by now they won't get paid anyway.

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
75. They aren't just attacking the process
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jan 2020

they are actually making shit up - past precedent, Supreme Court decisions, purported "rights" of the President. . :googly

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
108. My husband has been wondering why Roberts doesn't say something when stuff like that comes up.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jan 2020

What the heck is he there for? He's like a paperweight that breathes.

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
109. A Senate Impeachment trial is not really like a "court of law"
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 06:28 PM
Jan 2020

It was patterned after one but in the case of impeachment, the Chief Justice is there more as a symbolic "impartial judge" to shepherd the process along, replacing the Senate Pro-Tempore (Grassley) in that role, and acting as a "working observer" of the dispute between the Executive and the Legislative.

BumRushDaShow

(129,416 posts)
77. They keep saying "Executive Privilege" but Drumpf DID NOT INVOKE IT
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jan 2020

They are making stuff up. Ordering employees "not to comply with Congressional subpoenas" is NOT "invoking Executive Privilege". It is OBSTRUCTION.

Mersky

(4,986 posts)
106. Good grief, we've heard some hours of lying, spin, and smears from republicans
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jan 2020

Today is just next level insulting. These are supposed to be real attorneys?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,413 posts)
84. bet orange trumPutin is enraged ...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jan 2020

"What's she doing to me? This won't help the ratings! Where's the cleavage? the legs? She's supposed to be the Fox host here!"

crickets

(25,983 posts)
79. To sum up, they're claiming that Trump is accused of high crimes and midemeanors
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jan 2020

just for going to court.

Nice try.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
81. THAT is PAM BONDI !!!!
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jan 2020

Holy shit.. never heard her before, only about her..
My god is she stupid !!!

Can barely read.....


Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
105. Bondi has Trump's money in her pocket.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jan 2020

She got a 20k bribe to back out of a Trump University investigation when she was Florida AG.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
94. Burisma! Corruption!
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jan 2020

It isn't relevant, but she's gonna try her best to be a team player and make it relevant for *checks clock* about another hour or so.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
97. All the broadcast networks must've cut away after the 1st
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 05:45 PM
Jan 2020

break because at 4PM, local news, Ellen and syndicated court shows were on here.

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