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hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:32 PM Jan 2020

John Bolton told GOP donors that Trump is 'mentally unstable': report

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/john-bolton-told-gop-donors-that-trump-is-mentally-unstable-report/

A new report from Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman sheds some more light on former national security adviser John Bolton’s decision to blow up President Donald Trump’s top defense against impeachment.

A new report from Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman sheds some more light on former national security adviser John Bolton’s decision to blow up President Donald Trump’s top defense against impeachment.

According to Sherman’s sources, Bolton has told Republican donors that he believes Trump is “mentally unstable” and worries that the president could pull the United States completely out of NATO if he wins a second term.

Sherman reports that Trump allies are preparing to launch a furious counterattack against Bolton and his tell-all book that is scheduled for release on March 17th.

“He’s a bitter ex-employee,” one former White House tells Sherman.

A source close to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says that America’s top diplomat may even get into the action as a character witness against Bolton.

“Pompeo and Bolton were at war with each other during the administration,” the source explained. “Pompeo thought that Bolton was constantly trying to undercut him and the president.”

Nonetheless, Bolton’s revelation has made it all but certain that the Senate will call him to testify at the president’s impeachment trial.



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John Bolton told GOP donors that Trump is 'mentally unstable': report (Original Post) hlthe2b Jan 2020 OP
"The White House Knew and Kept It Mum": Bolton's Revelations Set Off 3-Way GOP Impeachment Squabble hlthe2b Jan 2020 #1
And, anyone who has been paying attention for the last three years says, GoCubsGo Jan 2020 #2
That was my first thought too TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #32
says the man who helped BUSH INC lie their way into a war Skittles Jan 2020 #3
Correct, Bolton has said lying is OK for a good (his) cause at140 Jan 2020 #25
They all seem nuts and paranoid - Bolton+ Pompeo included lunasun Jan 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author blogslut Jan 2020 #5
I still like Tillerson's assessment..."He's a fucking moron". BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #6
Like Trump, Bolton is in it for himself first. keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #7
+10 at140 Jan 2020 #27
If he helps get a rid of Trump, who cares? whathehell Jan 2020 #28
Popcorn!! Getcha popcorn here!! Bleacher Creature Jan 2020 #8
Wow, I'm surprised how much credibility Bolton has, all of the sudden. hughee99 Jan 2020 #9
You'd be foolish to call out DUers for "supporting" Bolton. But for all his Cheney-like hlthe2b Jan 2020 #20
I'm just suggesting DUers hold a little skepticism for the value hughee99 Jan 2020 #23
Crazy assholes dalton99a Jan 2020 #10
In the end, people (tRump) who hurt associates find them all holding knives and no friends Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2020 #11
Twitter reply : Rhiannon12866 Jan 2020 #12
The disease is well documented. Aussie105 Jan 2020 #13
"He's a bitter ex-employee" ... The question is, WHY is he bitter ? Is it justified ? eppur_se_muova Jan 2020 #14
Takes one to know one, Bolton himself is mentally unstable Raine Jan 2020 #15
Do you honestly believe ANY of us like him (or trust him, for that matter?) hlthe2b Jan 2020 #22
Ok, gotta have Bolton testify, then Pompeo against him, then ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #16
Time for another unscheduled partial annual physical at Walter Reed? DesertRat Jan 2020 #17
Thank You The River Jan 2020 #18
Pompeo A Character Witness -- And A Whole Lot More DallasNE Jan 2020 #19
Duh! malaise Jan 2020 #21
Kick, Kick, Kick, Kick and Kick Mike 03 Jan 2020 #24
Bolton may be a bitter ex-employee, BUT In Your Heart You Know He's Right Vogon_Glory Jan 2020 #26
He is also a drug addict, which is increasingly apparent all dewsgirl Jan 2020 #29
Sometimes this all runs together. Delmette2.0 Jan 2020 #30
"He's a bitter ex-employee," I thought Trump only hires "the best people" apnu Jan 2020 #31
I wonder how much of his condition is syphylis-related.... lastlib Jan 2020 #33
While Tom Joseph seems to know what he's talking about NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #34
I posted his tweet, because I could not do so from the Bolton tweet directly. hlthe2b Jan 2020 #35
thanks for the explanation NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #36

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. "The White House Knew and Kept It Mum": Bolton's Revelations Set Off 3-Way GOP Impeachment Squabble
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jan 2020

Blindsided by the West Wing, Mitch McConnell recalibrates his impeachment tactics as Trumpworld (Bolton is a “bitter ex-employee”) and Bolton (Trump is “mentally unstable”) go to war.


--snip--
Inside Trumpworld, it is widely assumed Bolton is behind the leak, three Republican sources told me. Their suspicion is driven by the fact that Bolton left the administration in September on bad terms and has been waging a shadow war against Trump ever since. In November, NBC News reported Bolton trashed Trump during a private speech, saying Trump’s foreign policy was driven by Trump’s business interests. A source close to Bolton told me that Bolton has privately told GOP donors that Trump is “mentally unstable.” Bolton also has said he worries Trump will pull the United States out of NATO if he gets a second term. “Bolton’s been out there trying to bring down Trump. He’s the ultimate passive-aggressive,” the person close to Bolton said. (Bolton did not respond to a request for comment.) In early January, Bolton released a statement on his website declaring he was willing to testify at Trump’s trial.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01/john-bolton-book-revelations-set-off-three-way-gop-impeachment-squabble

Trump allies also point out that Bolton has assembled a kitchen cabinet that could have orchestrated the leak to the New York Times. Some believe his book agents at the D.C. literary agency Javelin could be behind the disclosures, though Javelin has denied it. Others mention longtime Bolton aide Matthew Freedman, a D.C. consultant and ex-lobbyist who once worked for Paul Manafort as a possible suspect (Freedman once advised Filipino dictator Ferdinand Marcos). Freedman first started working with Bolton in the 1980s and was reportedly fired from the Trump transition for allegedly using his role to boost his consulting business, but remained close to Bolton and advised Bolton on staffing the NSC in 2018. “Freedman is like a character straight out of House of Cards, he’s trained in the dark arts,” the person close to Bolton told me. (Freedman could not be reached for comment, but a source close to him said it was “ludicrous” to allege he leaked). One former West Wing official said Bolton may have worried Republicans weren’t going to call him as a witness and it would look terrible if his book contained allegations that should have been aired during the trial. “I mean, what an asshole he would look like if impeachment ended and it looked like he withheld evidence,” the official said. In a joint statement yesterday, Bolton, his agent, and publisher Simon & Schuster said they had nothing to do with the leak. Bolton’s lawyer Charles Cooper also told the Washington Post: “I can tell you unequivocally that we had nothing to do with the leak of any information concerning John’s manuscript.”

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
32. That was my first thought too
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jan 2020

That Trump is mentally unstable should be news to no one (unless you're submerged in the Faux News kool-aid).

at140

(6,110 posts)
25. Correct, Bolton has said lying is OK for a good (his) cause
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jan 2020

Sorry Bolton, I hate all warmongers and neocons. My hate pretty much stops there.
These SOB neocons never volunteer to go in combat, but have no problem sending sons and daughters
of others to go fight wars in foreign countries and get killed or maimed.
I can't think of any other category of people I hate.
I am not a Christian, but I don't even hate the evangelists who flocked to Trump in 2016.

Bolton on video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=MbVtROU9J_E&feature=emb_logo

Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
6. I still like Tillerson's assessment..."He's a fucking moron".
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jan 2020

The fucking moron has become too consumed by his own ego and he feels free to "act like a nut", not realizing that we can see the emperor has no clothes and no sound mind. His handlers realize this and have somehow been able to keep him on script at his rally in NJ tonight (for the most part).

keithbvadu2

(36,827 posts)
7. Like Trump, Bolton is in it for himself first.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:10 PM
Jan 2020

Like Trump, Bolton is in it for himself first.

It's all publicity for his book.

Wait and see what his 'testimony' turns out to bee.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
9. Wow, I'm surprised how much credibility Bolton has, all of the sudden.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jan 2020

It’s almost like he hasn’t been the poster boy for drumming up fake justifications for unnecessary wars for more than 2 decades.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
20. You'd be foolish to call out DUers for "supporting" Bolton. But for all his Cheney-like
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:24 AM
Jan 2020

Neocon views, that we rightfully disdain, if he can be the one to take down Trump, I'm surely not going to step in the way.

No one HERE has forgotten who he is, hughee99.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
23. I'm just suggesting DUers hold a little skepticism for the value
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 11:05 AM
Jan 2020

Of the word of a guy who we know lies to advance his own agenda.

And yes, I think there are a number of newer people here who don’t really know (or remember) who he is.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
11. In the end, people (tRump) who hurt associates find them all holding knives and no friends
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 12:18 AM
Jan 2020

tRump has also pissed off McCONnell and most RepubliCON Senators big time, now.

tRump can only lose friends and allies, and he has no path to gaining more of either.

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
14. "He's a bitter ex-employee" ... The question is, WHY is he bitter ? Is it justified ?
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 12:46 AM
Jan 2020

Dismissing someone as a "disgruntled former employee" begs the question as to WHY they are disgruntled. Sometimes the reasons for their disgruntlement are damning for the ex-employer.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
15. Takes one to know one, Bolton himself is mentally unstable
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jan 2020

I never could stand him, not before and not now either. I don't trust him for a second!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
16. Ok, gotta have Bolton testify, then Pompeo against him, then ...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:02 AM
Jan 2020

Let's see, who was around at the time of the call...

Dan Coats, former Director of National Intelligence, fired by tweet 3 days after the infamous call. Why was he fired? Does he know anything about the Ukraine scheme?

Kevin McAleenan, fired by tweet 2019-11-13, might know something, even though he was Acting Secretary of Homeland Security, get him in to testify about people he talked to

Richard Spencer, former Navy Secretary, 2019-11-24, could've been in on some hush-hush meetings since Security and Intelligence were involved.

Maybe the revolving door of this "administration" is the proverbial fan upon which that proverbial shit is about to hit.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
19. Pompeo A Character Witness -- And A Whole Lot More
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:28 AM
Jan 2020

Republicans may like the idea of using Pompeo as a character witness but he is wrapped up in the quid pro quo issue and would face serious questioning on that. Plus, his own character has significant tarnish. And what happens if Bolton asks John Kelly to be a character witness for Bolton. Things could spiral out of control in a hurry. Order more popcorn.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
26. Bolton may be a bitter ex-employee, BUT In Your Heart You Know He's Right
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 12:38 PM
Jan 2020

Sorry, but I couldn't resist repurposing that old Republican campaign slogan and firing it back at Club Pachyderm.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
30. Sometimes this all runs together.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jan 2020

I think it was during the reviews of the Mueller Report there was a discussion about collusion that hinged on intent. What was tRumps intent?

Intent should be brought up again. tRump's intent in Ukraine needs to be talked about. The intent was for his personal benefit! The intent was not for democracy in Ukraine.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
31. "He's a bitter ex-employee," I thought Trump only hires "the best people"
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jan 2020

Trump is so bonkers these two things make sense.

lastlib

(23,244 posts)
33. I wonder how much of his condition is syphylis-related....
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jan 2020

Inquiring minds want to know. I also wonder if that's why he won't publicly release his medical records.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
34. While Tom Joseph seems to know what he's talking about
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jan 2020

he is NOT a doctor or medical professional - he's basing what he says about Trump from seeing family and friends suffer through dementia. So, while he knows a good deal about dementia, I do think sometimes he reads too much into Trump's symptons.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
35. I posted his tweet, because I could not do so from the Bolton tweet directly.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jan 2020

I'm not registered on Twitter and a recent change in format has made it far more difficult to do so.

If you see, my first response was the VF article itself. I probably should have deleted the rawstory link but I couldn't find the direct VF link initially. That was the actual story I wanted to direct to DUers attention.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
36. thanks for the explanation
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 02:38 PM
Jan 2020

I agree with Bolton and the article and even Tom Jospeph that Trump is mentally unstable. I was just pointing out that Tom Joseph, while well meaning, seems to sometimes read too much into every little detail of Trump's arm, leg, etc movements and speech.

(I'm not an expert by any stretch, either, but I've seen some of his tweets over the past year or so and he may list out 5 or 6 signs of dementia in a tweet based on a video of Trump, but when I review the video, maybe 3-4 are definite and 1-2 signs are questionable in my view)

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