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Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:20 PM Jan 2020

Regarding Black/Brown/Jewish/Muslim/"Other" Republicans

I’ve never understood how anyone who identifies with any of the groups in the headline of this post can be a Republican. Yet, many have chosen to “join their enemies.”

I put “join their enemies" in quotes, because people in all of these groups may not understand that they are despised by the majority of the people who make up the Republican Party.

IMO, being a black/brown Republican is like being a black or brown member of the KKK. A Jewish Republican skirts the edges of being a Jewish Nazi. (Yes, I’m talking about people like you, and so many others, Alan Dershowitz.) I could go on, but you get the idea.

When we’re talking about a political party that has no problem with separating Latin children from their loved ones and putting them in cages, who can have any doubt as to where they’re heading. If I used terms like “lynching,” and “concentration camps,” many here would be outraged and think I have gone off the rails. But read a little history from, say, the 1930s, in Germany and the American South, and only the morally blind would fail to see the similarities to that period and today’s political environment.

(It needs to be said that what many once called the "American South" is much of today's rural America. It stretches far beyond a single geographic region that we once called "The South". Many areas of the old South are enlightened, and countless people there are as outraged about today's political disaster as every other sane person.)

I fully expect that this thread will result in my being verbally attacked by some outraged DUers, for a variety of reasons. Many may call for this thread to be deleted, and that may happen.

But while this thread is still here, can anyone explain to me why any person who doesn’t work on Wall Street, or isn’t a white bible beating hypocrite, or is in some way mentally impaired, or stupid, or incredibly uninformed, or wallowing in self-hatred, would choose to be a Republican? I really can’t grasp it.

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Regarding Black/Brown/Jewish/Muslim/"Other" Republicans (Original Post) Cyrano Jan 2020 OP
Some people are simply single issue ... Whiskeytide Jan 2020 #1
That is true JonLP24 Jan 2020 #3
Many are selfish opportunists who are out for themselves and haven't been able... brush Jan 2020 #6
I can't grasp why white people vote Republican either JonLP24 Jan 2020 #2
Once upon a time, Republicans actually made genuine outreach Vogon_Glory Jan 2020 #4
Conservative is a basic personality type and a huge influence. Hortensis Jan 2020 #5

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
1. Some people are simply single issue ...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jan 2020

... voters, and don’t grasp the bigger picture.

Some are simply not informed enough, and can’t figure out the bigger picture.

Some just don’t care about the bigger picture.

Some have been so misinformed that they see a different bigger picture.

I also think that the number of people of color who vote republican is overblown at times.

brush

(53,785 posts)
6. Many are selfish opportunists who are out for themselves and haven't been able...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jan 2020

to make a mark in the much larger pond of POCs in the Democratic party so they throw in with the repugs to see what they can get out of it by being"different", allowing themselves to be used as tokens for a quid pro quo.

Others are just uninformed, low-info voters, some simply want to be seen as "different" than those regular black people, and some are just stupid.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
2. I can't grasp why white people vote Republican either
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jan 2020

As far as Muslims they may vote Democratic despite the Islamaphobia (Bill Maher for example). Muslims I follow on social media tend to be very progressive of foreign policy I imagine because of the Iraq war & other blunders.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
4. Once upon a time, Republicans actually made genuine outreach
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:42 PM
Jan 2020

to these other groups and were rewarded by Asian-American and Jewish-American support. I remember George W. Bush trying to get Muslim-Americans to align with the Republican Party before September 11th, 2001.

Of course the Far Right balked. The Republicans’ turn towards outright bigotry started with the propaganda organs and the Wen Ho Lee case in the 1990’s. Then came the anti-Muslim hysteria after 9/11, followed by the Right’s balking at Dubya’s attempt to legalize undocumented aliens.

Fast forward to Trump’s presidential campaign. Bigotry has again become acceptable in Republican circles.

What I’m saying is that times have changed, and a lot of “other” Republicans failed to notice it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Conservative is a basic personality type and a huge influence.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jan 2020

A lot of conservatives who identify Democrat in unity with their "tribe" share many gut reactions and predilections with conservative whites. They have to hold their nose all those times that voting for themselves also includes supporting liberal principles and goals they may genuinely despise.

The biggest difference between the two personality types, btw, is attitude toward equality. Liberals believe in it, conservatives less. Hierarchies of power and privilege tend to make sense for conservatives; they believe that in healthy societies they are natural and inevitable. The more conservative stronger the disagreements and less in common with liberals, of course.

Skin color, religion, cultures and continents of origin strongly affect but don't erase these fundamental wired-in orientations of all humans.

We saw that in that subset of black male Obama voters who refused to vote for a black woman to be governor of Georgia, effectively throwing in with GA's male-dominated white Republican Party against liberal government and women's equality.

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