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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsManchin says Hunter Biden is relevant impeachment trial witness in break with fellow Democrats
Sen. Joe Manchin indicated he could support calling Hunter Biden as a witness in President Trumps impeachment trial, breaking with his Democratic colleagues.
The West Virginia senator was asked Wednesday whether 2020 candidate Joe Bidens son is a relevant witness ahead of a vote later this week on calling witnesses to testify.
I think so. I really do. I dont have a problem there because this is why we are where we are. Now, I think that he can clear himself what I know, what Ive heard. But being afraid to put anybody that might have pertinent information is wrong, no matter if youre a Democrat or Republican, Manchin told MSBNCs Morning Joe.
Trumps impeachment team has painted the former vice president and his son as corrupt actors who should be investigated. Hunter Biden sat on the board of a Ukrainian gas company while his father was vice president.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-says-hunter-biden-is-relevant-impeachment-trial-witness-in-break-with-fellow-democrats/ar-BBZrmzs
Pander bear.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)I am so close to getting banned these days
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,035 posts)But nice try.
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Atticus
(15,124 posts)Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)ScratchCat
(1,990 posts)that Hunter Biden has pertinent information regarding Trump's phone call?
What would Hunter have to "clear himself" of?
Did we just walk into bizarro world?
Submariner
(12,504 posts)He doesn't, but because the state of West Virginia has done such a spectacular job in providing such a substandard basic education in its schools, the Trump loving low information voters believe it, so Manchin has to kiss their butts for votes.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)We all know that the GOP is using this to smear Joe Biden. Well, obviously Manchin does not know.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Political leaders, such as Schumer here, well know, what marginal pols are up against, and that knowledge is significant.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)...is to bring Dems one vote closer to Senate Majority Leadership and committee control.
He may not vote like a Dem, but he still counts as one toward Dems taking over the Senate in November.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Supports womens/lbgt/labor rights, consumer protection, edu, . . .
Against big biz, most gun control,
[He represents W. Va, Dems will miss him when he's gone].]
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)I would've guessed he voted with the GOPers about 92 percent of the time.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But really, let's assume that everything the Trump administration is saying about the Bidens is true. It's not, but let's say it is. What relevant testimony would Hunter Biden have in connection with the articles of impeachment that the House referred to you on President Trump? If the Bidens need to be investigated, that's a separate matter from the matter before you.
Ask yourself this, Joe: If the Bidens did all these horrible, corrupt actions in 2016 (they didn't), why didn't the FBI look into any of it before Joe Biden became the Democratic party front-runner for the 2020 nomination? Why didn't all this naked corruption (which didn't happen) get the attention of the administration until now?
I don't think you're a fool, Senator. Why are you acting like one?
unblock
(52,253 posts)especially when he's blatantly done far worse than exactly what he's accusing the bidens of.
his children are in the white house ffs!
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Democrats_win
(6,539 posts)But, but MOM! He got to do it.
The question is, Did Trump do something wrong? NOT Did Hunter Biden do something wrong.
Imagine if every trial was run that way....But Charles Manson got to manipulate his followers into murdering Sharon Tate why shouldn't I get away with driving my followers to murder someone.
Oh, and don't forget about the Trump children. Let's call them as witnesses too. Keeping the childish thing going.
ON edit, get Leonardo diCaprio to bring his flame thrower and protect Sharon Tate and America. Imagine that! Orange Pumpkin Pie--overcooked.
Second edit: apologies. Spoiler alert. Quentin Tarantino had a lovely ending. Besides, if we don't get rid of him, we all know it's all going to end in fire!
unblock
(52,253 posts)"i should be allowed to investigate and use aggressive interrogation tactics!"
unblock
(52,253 posts)even if the bidens were ten times the crooks republicans pretend they are, it would be completely irrelevant.
it's still an abuse of power to withhold military aid to an ally, contrary to federal law, in order to benefit his own personal political prospects.
it's not relevant whether or not his number one political opponent is corrupt or not. if any alleged corruption matters at all, what matters is whether or not he's established a solid pattern of investigating corruption regardless of consequence. if a political opponent just happened to fall into a wide net, that's one thing. but if the net was designed to snag exactly one particular political opponent, then the particulars of the allegation don't matter in the slightest.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)I hate this ****. If you want to make a point, make a frigging point..instead of co-opting the GOP spiel.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)Is Hunter now president?
stillcool
(32,626 posts)the creepier it gets. Every damn one of them is a hair away from the crimes of Donald Trump
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)... he's signaling to moderates they should vote for witnesses. He's trying to form a group of moderates for witnesses. We are bargaining nothing by "allowing" Hunter Biden. The Republicans will investigate the Bidens and call him, anyway. After this trial, expect the Biden investigations to start... Barr and McConnell will investigate... it will last all year.
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Could be. We've GOT to hear from Bolton and imho the OMB who froze aid.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)ago. And Trump has been threatening revenge too, but I was thinking about the House Managers because Trump singled out Adam Schiff.
That would be sickening, but of course they'll do it.
matt819
(10,749 posts)If he did something wrong, he should be indicted. In the US, in Ukraine. Then they have a trial - a real one, with, you know, evidence and witnesses. Then the jury - a real one, not the sham one on display now in the Senate - will discuss and debate and consider, and then he would be acquitted, or convicted.
People who are not under indictment or arrest don't need to do fuck-all.
tanyev
(42,568 posts)Even if Hunter Biden ninja-ed himself into the National Bank of Ukraine and got out again with a backpack stuffed full of hryvnia, extortion by withholding millions of dollars worth of military aid approved with a bipartisan Congressional vote is still an inappropriate and impeachable response.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)that show that Biden was doing anything illegal and therefore deserving of being investigated for corruption.
Last I checked fn conservatives think taking advantage of your family name is a virtue. Makes you clever.
Two faced and a smear campaign Manchin is playing to it.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)I have training and experience for the position i filled.
So unlike Ivanka, Don Jr, and Eric, I contributed something other than a political contact.