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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 05:28 PM Jan 2020

Wow. It only took 244 years but it finally happened.

America has a king


Alan Dershowitz: "If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment."

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Wow. It only took 244 years but it finally happened. (Original Post) Roland99 Jan 2020 OP
A trial is supposed to be about facts, not opinions. CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #1
L'etat c'est moi! AleksS Jan 2020 #2
Sharp blades. Heads removed. mnhtnbb Jan 2020 #6
My plan as well. warmfeet Jan 2020 #28
Guillotine fwvinson Jan 2020 #10
Orange Traitor-in-Chief as Robespierre? MissouriLibrul Jan 2020 #46
Usurper. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #3
He should have been escorted out in a straight jacket spanone Jan 2020 #4
He does appear quite unhinged. Maybe needs a quick visit to Epstein's sex island... Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #27
I would like to ask such biased attorneys of what events do they ever anticipate impeachment ever... SWBTATTReg Jan 2020 #5
Sex with an intern while Democratting. ThoughtCriminal Jan 2020 #38
Nuts to that. Hortensis Jan 2020 #7
So if he imprisoned all the likely opposition voters ... Johonny Jan 2020 #8
A lie only Epstein's lawyer could deliver. Hassler Jan 2020 #9
I thought I heard one of them say that. EndlessWire Jan 2020 #11
Aux Barricades!! TygrBright Jan 2020 #12
Do you hear the people sing? MissouriLibrul Jan 2020 #47
That is exactly the kind of quid pro that results in impeachment. fwvinson Jan 2020 #13
This attitude is prevalent with the majority of politicians now tikka Jan 2020 #14
Because it's good for the country! budkin Jan 2020 #15
"Public Interest" is the qualifier. Nothing about Trump's drug deal was in the public intetest. SunSeeker Jan 2020 #16
Aux armes, citoyens! BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #17
If Dershowitz believes he didn't abuse underage girls with Epstein IronLionZion Jan 2020 #18
"If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest .. Jopin Klobe Jan 2020 #19
Bwahahaha.... coti Jan 2020 #21
can you imagine him saying that about a woman or a POC Skittles Jan 2020 #20
If trump is acquitted, those arguments will become precedent. Do these repug POS ecstatic Jan 2020 #22
Oh, now there's more than one kind of quid pro quo? BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2020 #23
clinton had to do court shit for what's her name accusations. so he is he is full of shit. pansypoo53219 Jan 2020 #24
There's nothing regal about Trump. lpbk2713 Jan 2020 #25
I wonder if that means when a president's second term is up... regnaD kciN Jan 2020 #26
I wouldn't doubt Trump is mulling that idea. Different Drummer Jan 2020 #36
hold on. we're not there yet. if trump challenges the 2020 election results we are Kurt V. Jan 2020 #29
Disgusting Chester the Molester-creepy, piece of garbage. Pepsidog Jan 2020 #30
Obviously it's a very small public whose interest is served. What a filthy, slimy, POS. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #31
A public of 1 Roland99 Jan 2020 #33
This seals Dershowitz as not only dirty and creepy, but capable of the most transparent and emmaverybo Jan 2020 #32
Well, Clinton's blow job relieved stress so he could better serve the public interest. Beartracks Jan 2020 #34
The end of Russian Sanctions earthside Jan 2020 #35
Exactly. I hope these #TraitorGOP one day realize how treasonous they are Roland99 Jan 2020 #37
Trumpublicans reminding me a little moondust Jan 2020 #39
The M$M seems to be helping with that too Roland99 Jan 2020 #40
Every tin-pot dictator and snake-oil charlatan would tell us ... MFGsunny Jan 2020 #41
I just fixed his quote. 2Legit Jan 2020 #42
K&R! n/t PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #43
America doesn't have a king. Trump has a shyster for a lawyer who is best known for trying to get Nitram Jan 2020 #44
We have come to this Dukkha Jan 2020 #45
Yep, that's what Orange Oligarch thinks. Different Drummer Jan 2020 #49
Yes, this is more like a coronation than a trial. ooky Jan 2020 #48

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
1. A trial is supposed to be about facts, not opinions.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jan 2020

Of course, lawyers are supposed to cite precedence. No other president has effed up this much before, so they're going to acquit anyway.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
2. L'etat c'est moi!
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jan 2020

Indeed. Not surprised it came from the “Let them eat cake” party though.

How did it end for the French monarchs, can someone remind me?

 

MissouriLibrul

(35 posts)
46. Orange Traitor-in-Chief as Robespierre?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:45 PM
Jan 2020

Ohplease, ohplease, ohplease...

Cuz we all know what happened to THAT guy.

SWBTATTReg

(22,137 posts)
5. I would like to ask such biased attorneys of what events do they ever anticipate impeachment ever...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jan 2020

being invoked, being that it is in the Constitution as well as an Amendment? Does something equals in my mind just about anything, cheating, etc. to get elected in the public interest.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
8. So if he imprisoned all the likely opposition voters ...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 06:59 PM
Jan 2020

Scary thoughts from an intentionally stupid man.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
11. I thought I heard one of them say that.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:08 PM
Jan 2020

Something like, if a president cheats to get elected, that's okay.

They're all crazy.

 

MissouriLibrul

(35 posts)
47. Do you hear the people sing?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:51 PM
Jan 2020

...
Singing the songs of angry men?
It is the music of the people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!

Will you join in our crusade?
Who will be strong and stand with me?
Somewhere beyond the barricade
Is there a world you long to see?
Then join in the fight
That will give you the right to be free!

Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the songs of angry men?
It is the music of the people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!

tikka

(762 posts)
14. This attitude is prevalent with the majority of politicians now
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jan 2020

Everything is about getting re-elected instead of serving constituents and the nation.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
16. "Public Interest" is the qualifier. Nothing about Trump's drug deal was in the public intetest.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jan 2020

It was against our national security. It was against our stated Ukraine objectives and policy. All so he could force Ukraine to manufacture dirt against his political opponent.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
18. If Dershowitz believes he didn't abuse underage girls with Epstein
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:46 PM
Jan 2020

then he should be investigated for it to be sure.

Believing something doesn't make it true.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
19. "If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest ..
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jan 2020

... wait a minute, wait a minute ...

... so, if a president lies about getting a blowjob - for instance - to help himself keep his job and get reelected ...

... it's OK? ...

... well, well, well ...

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
22. If trump is acquitted, those arguments will become precedent. Do these repug POS
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jan 2020

assholes realize that???

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
26. I wonder if that means when a president's second term is up...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jan 2020

...if he or she determines that remaining in office would “be in the public interest,” he or she could simply cancel elections and declare himself president for life?

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
29. hold on. we're not there yet. if trump challenges the 2020 election results we are
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jan 2020

on the edge. he has all the pieces in place but overwhelming turnout is the main deterrent

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
32. This seals Dershowitz as not only dirty and creepy, but capable of the most transparent and
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:28 PM
Jan 2020

absurd argument even he can’t truly believe.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
34. Well, Clinton's blow job relieved stress so he could better serve the public interest.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for explaining, Dershowitz.

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earthside

(6,960 posts)
35. The end of Russian Sanctions
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jan 2020

My prediction ...

'Acquittal' will mean the green light for whatever Trump wants to do ... what's going to stop him?

Consequently, Trump will order U.S. sanction on Russia to not be enforce -- that's what the whole Trump tenure has been about, doing Putin's bidding and ending those sanctions.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
39. Trumpublicans reminding me a little
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 11:48 PM
Jan 2020

of the Enabling Act of 1933.

~
The Nazis devised the Enabling Act to gain complete political power without the need of the support of a majority in the Reichstag and without the need to bargain with their coalition partners.
~

Totalitarian behavior.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
41. Every tin-pot dictator and snake-oil charlatan would tell us ...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jan 2020

... would tell us that it's ALL FOR OUR OWN GOOD!!!!!!

Jiminy crickets ....... surely we are NOT THAT stupid or gullible.

2Legit

(90 posts)
42. I just fixed his quote.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jan 2020

Alan Dershowitz: "If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment...unless the president is a Democrat."

There. I fixed it for him.

Geez, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting really sick and tired of being talked to like I'm some kind of simpleton. They may have to do that for the current occupant of the People's House, but, personally, I actually have a clue.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
44. America doesn't have a king. Trump has a shyster for a lawyer who is best known for trying to get
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jan 2020

the guilty off scott free. Watching his act on The View was enlightening. Dershowitz is a piece of work. He's good at what he does, but what a slimeball.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
48. Yes, this is more like a coronation than a trial.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:57 PM
Jan 2020

The Republicans are literally crowning King Donald the first King of America.

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