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If they acquit, that's par for the course for the Rs.

If they win in November after all this, that's when I will feel that way.

But if they can just shut this down with no witnesses, no accountability, using nothing but fools like Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz... there is literally nothing they will hold Trump or any GOPer to account for. Which means that Russia can do anything they want and elect anybody they want, because who will stop them? The only people who could are the exact people who wouldn’t want to.

I was feeling so much better last night... I hate this so much.

Witnesses or no witnesses, evidence or no evidence, there was never any way that 60 senators were going to vote to convict and remove Trump.

And, if by some strange alignment of planets, the senate did throw him out, we end up with President Pence. So hold the confetti and champagne.

Nov 3. That's our next best target.

After Friday, Shitstain is going to do any fucking thing he wants to do, and few of the 330 million-odd residents of Short Attention Span Theater seem to give a damn.

What would it take for them to do so? Damned it I know - we're literally watching a whole country burn to the ground in real time, as we figuratively watch our country burn to the ground in real time, and what do we hear?

Nothing but the same old lies belching from the mephitic pie-holes of Ken Starr and Rupert Murdoch and Alan Dershowitz and Lou Dobbs and Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham and Mark Levin and Tucker Carlson and the rest of the residents of the Lick The Boot of Fascism Treehouse.

Meanwhile, I just got a text! The Big Game! Brooklyn Decker in a bikini! Real Housewives! Bar Rescue! Ancient Aliens!

I've lost all hope.

Too many of our fellow citizens are Nazis.
They've won.

that a lot of us will be without medical, income, and a home. Maybe even in prison for being homeless.

Here in Europe, the news in the 3 countries I have been to since I landed back here Monday morning has been full of nothing BUT the trial, and spelling out for the people here what is going on, and what is being revealed.

Not that Trump would get any more votes here than Tulsi Gabbard would get in Delaware, but even so, he is not exactly getting coverage he can be proud of.

The whole exercise was to remove the protective barrier of false propaganda that Trump and the Trumpanzees wanted to hide behind in an attempt to coast to re-election. It was never here in Europe to begin with, but it seems to be crumbling a bit even back in the States. That should tip the scales ina few key Senate races, and if Moscow Mitch McTurtle can be replaced as Senate majority Leader by a Democrat, that will more than have made the whole exercise worthwhile. At this point, having a visibly mentally deranged Trump in front of the cameras instead of the dull-but-sane-by-comparison Pence would probably be the bigger asset for us.

It has indeed been a sad day...

The GOP is flashing its ass in front of the whole world. And for that, I am glad.

And if we could rely on the election, I would feel much more sanguine. We can survive a year of a monarchy if he is voted out of office. Nobody's switched to Trump's side since 2016. But elections can be and have been rigged. And there is nobody in the majority party in the Senate who has the least interest in doing anything to ensure free and fair elections in 2020--just the opposite.

What are we going to do if the exit polls have our candidate winning by 360 electoral votes on Election Day but the official results have us losing by 360? What can be done? And of course, we'd be even more helpless if the results are carefully designed to mirror 2016 and we have a squeaker of a loss, but a plausible one. What can we do? Nothing. March? Big deal. Protest? It will amuse them.

This question isn't aimed at you, DFW--I'm just howling it into the wind--but I just started typing my initial response to your post and kept going.

While that may seem out of proportion, consider that there will be NO effort to improve the fight against climate change as long as these cretins are in power. The longer they are there, the longer there will be no action on our (as in USA) part. If we don't do something, no one else will. Angela Merkel can't do this by herself. She is a role model, not the head of state of a superpower. Therefore, efforts to combat climate change on a national level ARE directly connected to the issue of Republican voter fraud, which, then, by extension, IS an issue of life or death.

One of the reasons I find it so easy to stay away from the Primaries board is that my favorite, Jay Inslee, dropped out long ago. The second two big environmentalists (Al Gore and Howard Dean) aren't even running. Where half the posters there seem obsessed with posting every time their beloved candidate farts into the wind, and praising how sweet it smells, the real issues of electoral fraud and its direct consequences get drowned out by cries of joy at how much will be confiscated from "rich" people, as if that will magically make the polar ice stop melting tomorrow.

So if you don't mind some two part harmony while howling into the wind, I hope you don't mind if I join you for a few verses.

I called L. Alexander and M. Blackburn today...again. By the time my messages ended, I was so discouraged. I am so effing sick of not having representation.

Trump really can do anything he wants to. What a sad end to this American experiment.

I remember when Nixon got away with it-- pardoned by Ford.

Ford lost the presidency after that. Even Republicans thought it was a rigged job.

I think the more intransigent the Senate GOPers are, the more objectionable the voters will find their actions. Some Republican voters might even find it hard to vote for what they realize has become just the Trump party, which demonizes their previous stars like Romney and Bolton. And many independents are going to reject what is clearly a "Fix" and blame the entire GOP party.

If Trump would be removed, we'd have 10 months of Pence, which would let him spend all that time campaigning for November. (And he'd have 10 months to pardon Trump.)

But if the McConnell fix works (as it will), that stink will pervade the Trump/Pence campaign, and all their supporters. Trump can't pardon himself (watch him try though!), and as more revelations come out, it will be so obvious that the only way to escape this shitstorm is to vote him out. And that will vote Pence out, and probably ruin his political future.

I want Trump convicted, humiliated, expelled, jailed! But if the Senate GOP is going to abase itself in worship of him, well, that's going to stick to everyone of them. We could definitely win the presidency... and we could also get the senate. Maybe. It's a real stretch, but 2018 showed that incumbents could be beaten.

And Pence will be gone too. I think the best/worst might be Trump resigning in December after his terrible defeat, in exchange for a pardon. That would destroy the GOP in many independents' minds, and NYC and NY state could indict Trump then.

This isn't the end. There will be repercussions for the GOP treason.

To know if vote results have been tampered with.

county in Oregon, every year. THat's 36 counties, and some of them are really big. Meaning a lot of travel to get there. I always go to any of them that are within driving distance of me because I always feel so much better after I go. He is always upbeat and optimistic, although realistic about what is happening. I always leave feeling so grateful that we have good representative here in Oregon. I know that is small consolation for those of you who don't, but he and Merkley are both working for America, not just Oregon.

I know Wyden has been all over voting machine issues and cyber security issues with election infrastructure for years. He worked closely with Pelosi on the bill the House passed and is sponsoring it in the Senate. Unlikely to pass, I know, with Moscow Mitch at the helm. But he has his fingers on the pulse of all that and is very actively involved.

One of his staffers once told me not to lose hope because there are a lot of really good people working behind the scenes on things we don't even know about. I often think back to that.

I adore our senators. (If I feel this discouraged and fearful in Oregon, I cannot imagine what it's like to live in a red state, surrounded by people who cheer this crap on.) Thank you for that "things we don't even know about." I really hope that staffer is correct. I certainly trust our senators to do everything they can.

Thank you. I'm still terrified and despondent, but it helps to have something to cling to.