They've got a breaking news banner and it's their lead story.

According to Wikipedia it's the most circulated paper in NZ.

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Zealand_Herald

A little more from the NZ Herald:

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"Look at me, I'm important for a few seconds!"

On the other hand, if a crematorium averages a reasonably large number of bodies per day and then it increases by 50% or more and stays increased, it bears asking if there's not some discrepancy. If they get 1 and for a few days it's 2, small number stats might be at play. If they routinely get 200 and that number's held steady for the last month, then quickly the number goes to 400 not for a day but for weeks, it's something else.

Also, this source that is cited in the article seems to have a very good grasp of what is happening. His reporting is alarming, i must say.

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related to this, for them to lockdown 58 million people. There is a lot that is being hid. The fact that America has 165 suspected cases and we have seen only 5 cases for 3 days, tells us they dont want people to panic.

I just want to be extra careful on this subject, as many DUers aren't that interested in it. and it's been difficult to get information confirmed by medical sources.

But it looks like this story is increasing in seriousness.

uses reputable sources. As it is Agenda Free TV, he has both pro and anti Trump users in the live chat, but he has lots of moderators as well, he has gained quite an audience in the last week or so.

I see you're following him too.

He could be a very good source on what is actually unfolding.

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account, I didn't even know China had anything that isn't state tv. I went to follow that account, duh it's all in Chinese.

You could be contagious for 14 days before you show symptoms? The virus is airborne? This sounds weaponized.

If it is and they know it, that would explain why they are building hospitals in record time.

like this, especially with the news coming from another country. Most of us here at DU, know how to differentiate real and fake news, when it comes to domestic issues. I'm having difficulty with this, especially when at every turn, there is talk of governments blocking such info.

The reason it was labeled the “Spanish flu” is because Spain did not restrict reporting. Therefore, people incorrectly assumed it come from Spain due to its uncensored reporting.

try, I doubt they will succeed.

...contagious.

When the influenza pandemic hit the US, makeshift hospitals went up quickly, as all others were completely overwhelmed.

...all information flow both in and out. For instance, Almost no one in China knows about the Tienanmin Square massacre, because information about it was shut down immediately, and so many people have been born after that time -- and who is there who will tell them?

Between November 2002 and July 2003, an outbreak of SARS in southern China caused an eventual 8,098 cases, resulting in 774 deaths reported in 17 countries

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome


The SARS outbreak lasted approximately 7 months...this corona virus has exploded just in the last month...



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak

I honestly have no comment, except, fwiw, world, I sure am sorry

7700+ confirmed cases on Chinese mainland.

Per Sky News.

No vaccine for at least a year. - Per CTV News

Vaccine in 3-6 months per NY doctor on BBC News.

it sounds like the reality of the situation is quite a bit worse than the numbers we're getting.

The confirmed cases numbers seem to have more to do with how many people they test than how many people have it. There are lots of reports of people, especially the ones they don't expect to make it, not being able to get tested, or treated, at all.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a lot of people dead from the virus that aren't getting counted because they never got tested.

We also have very little information about people actually recovering from the virus. The number of deaths vs. infections is one thing, but viral pneumonia can take a long and highly variable time to kill.

It doesn't have to be a grand conspiracy to deceive, getting solid information out of a situation like this is pretty difficult, but the fact we just arrested people involved with the Wuhan bio-research lab makes it more likely there's deception going on too.