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It's over, the fix is in. (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2020 OP
unless bolton blows it up. mopinko Jan 2020 #1
only if it promotes his book Skittles Jan 2020 #2
Of course he wants to promote his book! lunatica Jan 2020 #10
i think he is hoping for memes like nancy walks away from a wh in flames in her red coat. mopinko Jan 2020 #21
let him be on bdamomma Jan 2020 #33
Don't think that is going to happen calguy Jan 2020 #3
Yeah, let's not assume Bolton will take it lying down lunatica Jan 2020 #6
It would have to kill his ego for Trump to have outsmarted him through McConnell eleny Jan 2020 #13
Fingers crossed here! lunatica Jan 2020 #14
b,c,d,e,f mopinko Jan 2020 #22
He'll be singing when he's on his book tour. herding cats Jan 2020 #7
Whatever info the govt. decides he can't put in his book for national security reasons will prevent in2herbs Jan 2020 #27
It's looking like this is the direction things are going. herding cats Jan 2020 #4
The impeachment battle has flipped the Senate, in my view scheming daemons Jan 2020 #5
depends on who the dems nominee is IMO nt msongs Jan 2020 #8
Trump was always going to "skate." herding cats Jan 2020 #11
Unless they blatantly cheat Zolorp Jan 2020 #20
Yeah, that sick feeling hit me this morning. I literally said he's going to pull off the bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 #9
It's all about getting this done and put to bed by the STOU for the GOP. herding cats Jan 2020 #12
It really is "Barr & the Mueller Report" all over again. He wants to bellow the bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 #37
My biggest disappointment is how the Dems never said a word about how McConnell bragged about world wide wally Jan 2020 #15
They know bdamomma Jan 2020 #34
I don't know what's plan B would be, there's no other mechanism for removing a president. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #38
sorry I just corrected my post bdamomma Jan 2020 #39
So maggot MFM008 Jan 2020 #16
Bolton needs to go on tv tomorrow and let it rip. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #17
They clear him Friday and by the end of the day safeinOhio Jan 2020 #18
I agree duforsure Jan 2020 #19
How !? Trump's counsel has already affirmed Trump will cheat in next election !! Pelosi has to go... uponit7771 Jan 2020 #23
America is a dictatorship. OliverQ Jan 2020 #24
Even though I am well aware of the facts here, seeing dewsgirl Jan 2020 #31
sadly, yes. We have watched a bloviating, lawless minority librechik Jan 2020 #25
So what happens to all the people who've been arrested in this debacle? kskiska Jan 2020 #26
What the hell are you talking about? sweetloukillbot Jan 2020 #32
Messaging Is Key Now DarthDem Jan 2020 #28
And Deadbeat Donnie is going to declare himself exonerated. Liberal In Texas Jan 2020 #29
Everybody knew that the GOP Senators would commit to obstruction of justice rockfordfile Jan 2020 #30
I don't want to see bdamomma Jan 2020 #35
I want it to be over anyway. Then we can focus on November helpisontheway Jan 2020 #36

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
1. unless bolton blows it up.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:31 AM
Jan 2020

he just might go on the teevee and sing if it becomes apparent they arent going to call him.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. Of course he wants to promote his book!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:36 AM
Jan 2020

The question is how much does he want it? I think he wants it a whole lot. He’s a nasty piece of shit who isn’t ever going to willingly fellate Trump.

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
21. i think he is hoping for memes like nancy walks away from a wh in flames in her red coat.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jan 2020

i am thinking taking down a pres would be right up his alley.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. Yeah, let's not assume Bolton will take it lying down
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:33 AM
Jan 2020

He’s never done that before. In actuality he’s an aggressive and belligerent person who is always ready for a fight. He actually lives for conflict. Even if he’s silence it will only be temporary.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
13. It would have to kill his ego for Trump to have outsmarted him through McConnell
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:43 AM
Jan 2020

He only has a day or two to make his move for maximum impact. I hope he had a Plan B.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
7. He'll be singing when he's on his book tour.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:35 AM
Jan 2020

Other than that, I don't expect anything from him which isn't contractually obligated by his publishers.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
27. Whatever info the govt. decides he can't put in his book for national security reasons will prevent
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jan 2020

Bolton from discussing it on his book tour for fear of arrest for leaking national secrets.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
4. It's looking like this is the direction things are going.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:33 AM
Jan 2020

Sad, isn't it? We had so much potential as a nation, only to see it tossed to the wayside over the likes of Trump.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
5. The impeachment battle has flipped the Senate, in my view
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:33 AM
Jan 2020

Trump skates... but Mitch will lose his majority.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
11. Trump was always going to "skate."
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:38 AM
Jan 2020

Even if we had witnesses, he wasn't going to be removed. That was just a wild fantasy by a few fringe, fed by a media looking for viewership.

If we can turn this into senate seat wins, that's the best we can hop for here.

 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
20. Unless they blatantly cheat
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 07:15 AM
Jan 2020

Which means that nobody will be held to account for the cheating since the cheaters will hold the power.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
9. Yeah, that sick feeling hit me this morning. I literally said he's going to pull off the
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:36 AM
Jan 2020

acquittal vote at 2:00 AM on Saturday morning, just in time for the morning Tweet-storm, the Super Bowl Sunday interview, and the SOTU.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
12. It's all about getting this done and put to bed by the STOU for the GOP.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:39 AM
Jan 2020

They want to give him his platform to brag which he's demanded.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
37. It really is "Barr & the Mueller Report" all over again. He wants to bellow the
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jan 2020

narrative from the highest rooftops, truth be damned, and be secure in the knowledge that any efforts at rebutting will be met with apathy and indifference.

It perfectly reflects the old expression, "a lie makes it halfway around the world before the truth has the chance to put its pants on".

world wide wally

(21,741 posts)
15. My biggest disappointment is how the Dems never said a word about how McConnell bragged about
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:55 AM
Jan 2020

Rigging the trial.

bdamomma

(63,841 posts)
34. They know
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jan 2020

Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)

that McConnell was not going to be impartial juror. I don't think this is over, there must be a Plan B.

Americans NOT are going to take this crap. I'm not.

Sorry typo mistake or word omitted.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
38. I don't know what's plan B would be, there's no other mechanism for removing a president.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jan 2020

Sure, we would have loved to have witnesses, but even if we did, it wasn’t going to change the vote of any senator. November is the only option.

bdamomma

(63,841 posts)
39. sorry I just corrected my post
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:28 PM
Jan 2020

I forgot the word "not" the American people are not going to take this crap.

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
16. So maggot
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:11 AM
Jan 2020

Can waltz into the SOTU and get the cheers and claps from his co-conspirators for being aquited.
This asshole is trying his hardest to be the most hated man in Ameeican History.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
17. Bolton needs to go on tv tomorrow and let it rip.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:13 AM
Jan 2020

If Trump walks, no one is going to give a shit to buy his dollar-short/day-late book.

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
18. They clear him Friday and by the end of the day
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:12 AM
Jan 2020

he'll have another big screw up and Monday the House will start Impeachment 2.0. Or something like that.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
19. I agree
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 07:12 AM
Jan 2020

And trump will go on full attack mode using barr to try to criminalize all those involved in doing this to him. He'll escalate and it'll only get a lot worse , and next time he will openly abuse all his powers against others , they are corrupt , but he isn't by fabricating evidence on others like he's done many times before.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
23. How !? Trump's counsel has already affirmed Trump will cheat in next election !! Pelosi has to go...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:53 AM
Jan 2020

... nuclear and declare Red Don's electoral victory doesn't get certified without witnesses

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
24. America is a dictatorship.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jan 2020

There is no way to count on the 2020 election to fix this. It will be rigged in Trump's favor. We're heading towards a Revolution or Civil War.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
25. sadly, yes. We have watched a bloviating, lawless minority
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jan 2020

take away our sweet troublesome democracy of checks and balances and replace it with a corrupt gang that demands to be treated as royalty. And they didn't even have a case. Just the lawless gang.

November 2020: experts say that due to gerrymandering, Dems need to win by 5M plus to break the electoral college open to the majority. Not counting on that Russia-hacked relic to save the US. And the GOP act like they have it rigged. So smirky and patronizing and entitled.

Clearly "The Family" (google this evil entity) is working behind the scenes here. These fuckhead Xtian senators seem like their eternal lives are dependent on the GOP committing this crime.They are about to receive their crowns from the Lord himself. Trump, I mean. Terrifying!


See you in the gulag!

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
26. So what happens to all the people who've been arrested in this debacle?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jan 2020

If there was no crime committed, do they all go free?

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
28. Messaging Is Key Now
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:13 AM
Jan 2020

Just as you said, Randy, in terms of making them pay. The Democrats need to hammer the fact that the Senate held a sham trial and wouldn't even consider evidence.

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
29. And Deadbeat Donnie is going to declare himself exonerated.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jan 2020

When nothing is further from the truth.

They've bullied, bribed, and threatened their senators. And those senators don't have enough backbone to stand up to the bullies.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
30. Everybody knew that the GOP Senators would commit to obstruction of justice
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jan 2020

Americans will make them pay for the GOP Senators corruption in November. Vote them out!!

bdamomma

(63,841 posts)
35. I don't want to see
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jan 2020

the smirk on McConnell's face, or for him to say something we have to get back to the people's work. Yeah right, screwing us all with another tax hike for the rich.

This is not over.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
36. I want it to be over anyway. Then we can focus on November
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jan 2020

Witness or no witness they were never going to remove him anyway. And the nuts don’t care what the witnesses have to say anyway. They are brainwashed and will never believe anything other than Fox News. And if the independents can’t see through these games then they were lost anyway. Probably Republicans pretending to be independent.

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