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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:27 AM Sep 2012

Peggy trashes all. Obama tired and stale. good sign?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443686004577636443448520330.html?KEYWORDS=peggy+noonan

Barack Obama is deeply overexposed and often boring. He never seems to be saying what he's thinking. His speech Thursday was weirdly anticlimactic. There's too much buildup, the crowd was tired, it all felt flat. He was somber, and his message was essentially banal: We've done better than you think. Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?

There were many straw men. There were phrases like "the shadow of a shuttered steel mill," which he considers writerly. But they sound empty and practiced now, like something you've heard in a commercial or an advertising campaign.

It was stale and empty. He's out of juice.

His daughters have grown beautiful.

As for Joe Biden, I love him and will hear nothing against him. He's like Democrats the way they used to be, and by that I do not mean idiotic, I mean normal—manipulative only to a normal degree, roughly aware of the facts of normal life, alert to and even respecting of such normal things as religious faith. I wish he did not insist on referring to his wife as "Dr. Jill Biden." I'm sure she has many doctorates, but so do half the unemployed in Manhattan.

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Peggy trashes all. Obama tired and stale. good sign? (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 OP
Peggy Noonan is a hack who hasn't written anything inspirational since the 80s. Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #1
what did she write inspirational in the 80's? rufus dog Sep 2012 #6
I thought her Space Shuttle Columbia disaster speech was good... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #18
actually...she's been fairly cool. don't know why she's got her panties in Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #15
She used to be a speechwriter, right? speedoo Sep 2012 #2
for Ronald Reagan lovemydog Sep 2012 #9
She always talked about him like she wanted to jump him. MADem Sep 2012 #23
I actually read her book....she was always a dem and then switched. nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #17
Um... which convention was she watching? calimary Sep 2012 #3
History shows what Peggy says publicly is quite different from what she thinks privately Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2012 #4
You know LPMAD, Cleita Sep 2012 #5
I actually had high hopes for a flip with her. I suppose that is out. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #22
I don't think she watched the same convention that we did. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #7
but it's a good sign, CP. They are ALL jealous and want to be Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #24
I confess standingtall Sep 2012 #8
Fuck Peggy Noonan TeamPooka Sep 2012 #10
+1,000 n/t malaise Sep 2012 #37
Yawn Sugarcoated Sep 2012 #11
I can't stand the sound of that monotone drawl on that hag. She's one to call Mr. President stale lonestarnot Sep 2012 #12
She must be confused with her own soporific writing. longship Sep 2012 #13
She needs a hot mic politicasista Sep 2012 #14
noonan is... xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #16
ah....an autobiographical piece ! nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #20
I find it interesting standingtall Sep 2012 #19
She's on her tenth bad facelift and she's talking "tired and stale?" MADem Sep 2012 #21
where you been MADem? checked into the fundraising thread? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #25
She is relevent in what regard..? and-justice-for-all Sep 2012 #26
projection grasswire Sep 2012 #27
And she will change exactly...nothing. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #28
Oh please.. PN is trying to sell a Cha Sep 2012 #29
She trashed his 2008 speech as well. RandySF Sep 2012 #30
She's jealous of President Obama's speech writing abilities. Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #31
Noonan always come off like she stewed to the gills to me. nt Raine Sep 2012 #32
She hopes repukes who didn't watch the DNC will find her bullshit comforting like a security blankie NBachers Sep 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author NBachers Sep 2012 #34
sounds like she is jealous and angry. The Democrats are not laying down and taking it. They are still_one Sep 2012 #35
Peggy apparently doesn't know (or give a single example) what "straw men" there were underpants Sep 2012 #36
Poor Peggy is disappointed lunatica Sep 2012 #38
Did she scrunch up her face like some one just farted when she said it. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #39
 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
6. what did she write inspirational in the 80's?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:32 AM
Sep 2012

Who does Utah have this weekend? Should be a good weekend for the Pac-12. A UCLA upset would be icing on the cake. Although UofA is going to take an asswhopping.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
18. I thought her Space Shuttle Columbia disaster speech was good...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:39 AM
Sep 2012

But, like I said, that was all the way back in the 80s. She's done nothing since.

Utah plays up at Utah State tonight (Friday) on ESPN2. Should be a good game.

I don't think Washington has much chance against LSU, but UCLA could give Nebraska a scare.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. actually...she's been fairly cool. don't know why she's got her panties in
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:38 AM
Sep 2012

a wad now.....

all things. ALL things are personal

perhaps she only has a future job if RobMe gets in

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
2. She used to be a speechwriter, right?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:30 AM
Sep 2012

She only wishes she could write a speech one tenth as good as what we heard tonight.

Never liked her, but now I think she has lost her marbles.. Stupid hag.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. She always talked about him like she wanted to jump him.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:47 AM
Sep 2012

It was UNSEEMLY, her gushing. Very off-putting. She sounded like she was Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, at times. Nancy Reagan probably felt like the bunny and that's why she didn't seem to care for the woman.

Creepy, creepy person.

calimary

(81,261 posts)
3. Um... which convention was she watching?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:31 AM
Sep 2012

"Weirdly anticlimactic? "The crowd was tired?" "It all fell flat?" "He was somber?" "Stale and empty?"

Truly - peggy must still think she's in Tampa or something. Or still kneeling in front of the ghost of ronald reagan or something.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
4. History shows what Peggy says publicly is quite different from what she thinks privately
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:31 AM
Sep 2012

Remember this time she got caught?:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-mike-murphy_n_123647.html

Her public persona is bullshit and she knows it.
She's just telling her wingnut audience what she thinks they want to hear. She knows the DNC wiped the floor with the RNC, but she'll never admit it on camera.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. You know LPMAD,
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:32 AM
Sep 2012

Peggy Noonan is such a nonentity, her drivel is about as relevant as any drool that comes out of Ann Coulter's mouth. There are writers who could pull hit pieces like this off like the late Christopher Hitchens, but not this dried up bag of old oats.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. I actually had high hopes for a flip with her. I suppose that is out.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:47 AM
Sep 2012

Have an iota of kindred spirit with her because she and I both went through a post-911 trauma. Hers was worse than mine

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,614 posts)
7. I don't think she watched the same convention that we did.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:32 AM
Sep 2012

Her trashing all our great speakers spoke volumes..........about her.

She's no idiot, but boy did she ever misinterpret what we said.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. but it's a good sign, CP. They are ALL jealous and want to be
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:49 AM
Sep 2012

on our team -- who wouldn't but the worst cynic - or the biggest dumbell.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
8. I confess
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:34 AM
Sep 2012

I read up until she said the crowd was tired, and it all felt flat. What is she high, or does she have the Obama speech mixed up with Rmoneys snore fest?

TeamPooka

(24,225 posts)
10. Fuck Peggy Noonan
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:34 AM
Sep 2012

The GOP are all going to say over and over Obama and us Dems are tired because THEY are exhausted fighting for a guy they don't love.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
12. I can't stand the sound of that monotone drawl on that hag. She's one to call Mr. President stale
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:35 AM
Sep 2012

empty and out of juice. She must be blowing on about herself.

longship

(40,416 posts)
13. She must be confused with her own soporific writing.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:35 AM
Sep 2012

She didn't even watch tonight but took half an Ambien and wrote her review.

A brain is a horrible thing to waste.

Ptew!

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
16. noonan is...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:39 AM
Sep 2012

"deeply overexposed and often boring. She never seems to be saying what she's thinking. Her columns are weirdly anticlimactic. We are tired of her whining, it always all feels flat. Her message is essentially banal: Barack Obama yadda, failed yadda, apologizing for America yadda....

She is talking about herself.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
19. I find it interesting
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:40 AM
Sep 2012

She said she says she loves Joe Biden. Let's see first they try, and drive a wedge between Obama and Clinton. That didn't work. So now their trying for Joe. What are they stupid? Who's next? Michelle?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. She's on her tenth bad facelift and she's talking "tired and stale?"
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:43 AM
Sep 2012

GOP-SHILL, please!!! She's crusty and nasty and WAY past her sell-by date. Her mooning prose is beyond lame--it's gotten to the point where "dumbass shit" doesn't even scratch the surface of how bad her crap is.

It's pretty clear that after all these years, she still wants to dig up Saint Ronnie and violate his corpse....that is one sick woman. I don't think Nancy Reagan cared for her at all, and who could blame her?

And what's with the junior-high jealously over Dr. Jill Biden's title? We KNOW that is what it is. Dr. Jill Biden wants to be called Dr. Jill Biden, and Miss Thang here just needs to deal with the fact that she doesn't have a jazzy title of her own.

I guess there's no way to abbreviate "Wingnut Sycophant" and make it sound like anything resembling an actual salutation!!!

There's a word for Poopy Noooo-in....but it's not used in polite society!

That splash I heard was Poopy jumping the shark....

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
28. And she will change exactly...nothing.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 03:05 AM
Sep 2012

Noonan has been a nobody for twenty years now, except the on the Inside The Beltway Cocktail Circuit, where they still think it is they, and only they that shape political opinion in this country.

The Internet is making people like her irrelevant to the political discourse.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
31. She's jealous of President Obama's speech writing abilities.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 03:39 AM
Sep 2012

She knows that President Obama is a great writer, a wonderful orator, and one of the best statesman to appear in Washington in over half of a century.
He doesn't need a bunch of speech writers to write his speeches for him.
They're his own, with his own trademark phrases, timing, and pace.

Peggy is about as much of a 'has been' as any political has been has ever been in Washington ever before.
She's irrelevant.
She is even more irrelevant than George Will.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
33. She hopes repukes who didn't watch the DNC will find her bullshit comforting like a security blankie
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:06 AM
Sep 2012

She's propping up their failing, patched-up illusions; in return they help her feel relevant.

It's an ill relationship of dwindling corpse-beings

*Damn* My post won't load; then I click "Post My Reply" again; then it double-posts. Why does this keep happening?

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

still_one

(92,190 posts)
35. sounds like she is jealous and angry. The Democrats are not laying down and taking it. They are
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:19 AM
Sep 2012

going on the offense.

To fix the problems YOUR republican party got us into peggy

underpants

(182,800 posts)
36. Peggy apparently doesn't know (or give a single example) what "straw men" there were
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:28 AM
Sep 2012

She should watch the RNC convention - it was nothing but straw men.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
39. Did she scrunch up her face like some one just farted when she said it.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:45 AM
Sep 2012

Or is her face just always stuck that way?

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