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EleanorR

(2,391 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:44 AM Jan 2020

GOP Senators know Trump's claims about Biden in Ukraine are lies


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At a Senate hearing in 2016, a number of GOP senators who are still in office today sat in attendance during discussions of the Obama administration’s approach to Ukraine. At those hearings, officials and outside experts repeatedly discussed the need to remove the prosecutor in question -- Viktor Shokin, the Prosecutor General -- describing this imperative as central to official U.S. policy.

What’s more, Joe Biden’s own role in prompting this ouster came up repeatedly, and it was openly and explicitly discussed that the loan guarantees were being used as leverage to bring it about -- as U.S. policy.

None of this was treated as remotely controversial at the time.


But, crucially, the public record at the time also shows that the ouster of Shokin, including the use of loan guarantees as leverage, was U.S. policy -- and that at least some Republican Senators knew all of this as it was happening.
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GOP Senators know Trump's claims about Biden in Ukraine are lies (Original Post) EleanorR Jan 2020 OP
The truth is easily revealable CanonRay Jan 2020 #1
Republican senators already know the truth EleanorR Jan 2020 #2
Love Chris Murphy EleanorR Jan 2020 #3
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #4
Plus he only needed the announcement of a investigation kacekwl Jan 2020 #5
Of course they do. They're just pretending that they give a crap about this whole impeachment... SWBTATTReg Jan 2020 #6
It actually worked exactly the opposite of what they are claiming Major Nikon Jan 2020 #7

EleanorR

(2,391 posts)
2. Republican senators already know the truth
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jan 2020

They know this is a sham trial like one would see in Putin's russia. That is simply who they are now.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
6. Of course they do. They're just pretending that they give a crap about this whole impeachment...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jan 2020

process, that they are being impartial, and are listening to the whole process, when in fact, they aren't. They want to look like they care, but they don't. They already know what's going on, probably even discussed it behind closed doors repeatedly w/ rump and other underhanded ways of staying in power. These are republicans, desperate to stay in power at any cost.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. It actually worked exactly the opposite of what they are claiming
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jan 2020

The reason Viktor Shokin had to go was because he flatly refused to investigate corruption of companies which included Burisma. The idea Biden lobbied Ukraine to fire Shokin because of the Burisma investigation is simply a lie intended for the consumption of useful idiots who aren't paying attention and never will.

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