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Seth Abramson...Terrifying (Original Post) pbmus Feb 2020 OP
it is the normalization many of us predicted, expected, feared. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2020 #1
Second sentence is spot on Cosmocat Feb 2020 #3
The majority DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #7
It's segments like this, that help normalize it on a daily basis. MerryBlooms Feb 2020 #14
President Asshole's not calling Dems "Corrupt" by accident. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #2
You're spot on. nt iluvtennis Feb 2020 #11
One of the major DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #12
That is intentional and it works DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #29
This. Excellent post. nt crickets Feb 2020 #20
This is schizoid fascism. A tool of the politics of inevitability, to suddenly upend the last ancianita Feb 2020 #4
Trump's favorite book is a collection of Hitler's speeches. It's true. OMGWTF Feb 2020 #5
Link headline: "... ex wife once said he kept a book of hitlers speeches by his bed" Talitha Feb 2020 #16
Seth is spot on as usual. Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #6
His sycophants believe ever word that comes from his filthy mouth. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #8
they are in my fucking family. sorry for language, I am sick with fury. nt SylviaD Feb 2020 #10
... Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #13
Don't be silly. His base eats this shit up. nt SylviaD Feb 2020 #9
Haters gotta HATE. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #15
It is scary. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #17
Trump is definitely a Hitler wannabe. patphil Feb 2020 #18
this is a misreading of our situation that leaves out the remedy certainot Feb 2020 #19
What is your solution then? Like someone said in another DU posting, if one has a $billion... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #26
it's a 20-1 monopoly and you've just laid out two well-oiled talking points certainot Feb 2020 #27
Many of us aren't prepared for whats to come dustyscamp Feb 2020 #21
that was gross Kali Feb 2020 #22
The entire speech is to justify drastic measures he is going to take. world wide wally Feb 2020 #23
Actually Hitler coined the phrase and strategy 16 years before Goebbels grantcart Feb 2020 #24
No kidding... Rider3 Feb 2020 #25
Kick...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2020 #28
I'm at a loss about what we can do. Yes, we will vote and vote like our lives depend on it... She_Totally_Gets_It Feb 2020 #30
Seth can be on my dream team to figure out Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #31

NRaleighLiberal

(60,022 posts)
1. it is the normalization many of us predicted, expected, feared.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 08:09 PM
Feb 2020

there is nothing normal about this monster.

the current media is, for the most part, completely outmatched and unprepared dealing with it.

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
3. Second sentence is spot on
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 08:56 PM
Feb 2020

They are so far out left field it's ridiculous. Even watching Nicole Wallace who hates his guts in rails on him the entirety of her show every show, and her panel which are good people for the most part, they didn't even remotely touch on how disturbing the event was.

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
7. The majority
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:20 PM
Feb 2020

of American media is owned by wealthy Republicans, what do you expect. Take over the media....what you do to start a coup..........we are 99.9% there people.

A good book title for what happened would be "While the Nation Slept", except that title has already been used.

BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID. In fact, be scared to death........

After the last three years in particular, and this phony impeachment acquittal all hell is about to rain down on our nation, just watch......

WASF

MerryBlooms

(11,773 posts)
14. It's segments like this, that help normalize it on a daily basis.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:33 PM
Feb 2020

It's just subtle enough to pass, unless you're paying attention. If you just have it on in the background while you're busy, you probably would think it was a good segment. I don't have cable, so I just watch a few segments on my laptop. I shudder to think what folks are absorbing who have these cable shows running all day. I think Maddow, O'Donnell and Hayes are probably best for not just letting this stuff slide, but like I said, I only watch a few segments online.

https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
2. President Asshole's not calling Dems "Corrupt" by accident.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 08:10 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)

He's doing it over and over so the accusation loses all meaning. It's a technique.

HE is corrupt. If all his enemies are, too, it all becomes a blur. What's a low-information flibbertigibbet to think?

Of course, there's zero evidence of "corruption" from a straight arrow like Schiff or Romney. No matter; they'll manufacture something pretty soon. It's how Putin does it, after all.

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
12. One of the major
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:29 PM
Feb 2020

things they do, over and over, is accuse the other side of what THEY are doing or guilty of committing.
Every day they do corrupt things, then accuse everyone else........
Look at Biden, Look at Russian "interference", Look at.....etc etc etc day after day..........

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
29. That is intentional and it works
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020

the Dems are continually defending themselves about idiotic bullshit and they have no time to go on the offense.

In their spare time, the Dems continue to play pat-a-cake with a Bulldozer............

WASF

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
4. This is schizoid fascism. A tool of the politics of inevitability, to suddenly upend the last
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:04 PM
Feb 2020

three years of "what you're seeing and what you're reading..."

It's an emotional soothing stage to morally validate himself and those who see themselves as Christian warriors. It will go on for the a while.

Be careful. They will invite us to a believer war. We'll come for a good faith sitdown; and they'll come with guns.

Talitha

(6,619 posts)
16. Link headline: "... ex wife once said he kept a book of hitlers speeches by his bed"
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:42 PM
Feb 2020

But I highly doubt if he ever bothered to skim through it.

Unless it was the pop-up version.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
8. His sycophants believe ever word that comes from his filthy mouth.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:25 PM
Feb 2020

And there are many more of those than we would like to admit.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
13. ...
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:31 PM
Feb 2020

I shoot Real Estate homes for a living. I go into houses every day with faux snooze blaring. The first thing I have the owners do is turn the tv off. For "aesthetic" purposes, of course.

PatrickforO

(14,593 posts)
17. It is scary.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:19 PM
Feb 2020

Too bad Fox and AM talk radio are so far into the Goebbels camp.

Accuse the other side of that of which you are guilty. Indeed.

patphil

(6,217 posts)
18. Trump is definitely a Hitler wannabe.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:34 PM
Feb 2020

Give him the power, and he could be just as terrifying a dictator.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
19. this is a misreading of our situation that leaves out the remedy
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

the talk radio monopoly that limbaugh was leading has been telling and repeating big lies WITH NO CORRECTION OR CHALLENGE for 30 fucking years - ignored by the left and dems

trump then repeats what has come out of limnbaaugh's ass, fed to him by think tanks here and in russia

trump has been pigibacking talk radio and it continues to be the biggest political mistake in history that the analysts continue to ignore talk radio's dominant part in creating the alternate reality that has been used to create the modern republican party and enable trump

SWBTATTReg

(22,171 posts)
26. What is your solution then? Like someone said in another DU posting, if one has a $billion...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:05 PM
Feb 2020

dollars laying around, go ahead and buy yourselves some radio stations. Pay for the affirmative programming that you desire. Reaffirm the reality we're actually in. And simply don't listen to propaganda on the air waves, and switch the dial.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
27. it's a 20-1 monopoly and you've just laid out two well-oiled talking points
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:40 PM
Feb 2020

1)you're suggesting mom and pop can compete with walmart - it's a well protected and established monopoly of the loudest radio stations

2)in 40 states with 80 senators there are no free easy alternatives to AM politics while driving, working, doing chores.
ignoring it, including just turning the dial because it hurts our heads, has been the biggest political mistake in history.

if someone sets up a soapbox across the street and calls you a whore, thief, and traitor all day you can't salk by with your fingers in your ears - that's what dems/left have been doing for 30 years and now we have a cloud of orange assholes aall over wasshington. the rw radio monopoly is not part of the free speech spectrum because it excludes challenge and correction within that medium, and it does not represent market demand for lies and hate. it's just loud and everywhere.

dem and progressive leaders are wasting our time and donations by ignoring talk radio. and it's never more vulnerable now with the ad industry worried about losing all those ears if limbaugh croaks from cancer in the near future. they can't sell radio time at same rates if he's gone and the b team starts battling for top dog

now is the perfect time dem to destroy rw radio with artificial intelligence and protests at 87 universities that support 260 lmbaaugh stations.



world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
23. The entire speech is to justify drastic measures he is going to take.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:44 PM
Feb 2020

He loves to set up his defense in advance.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
24. Actually Hitler coined the phrase and strategy 16 years before Goebbels
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020

Hitler talks about in chapter 10 in Me in Kampf.

Gobbles first mentioned in 1941.

Like a lot of what SA refers to he is generally right but sloppy on the details.

Rider3

(919 posts)
25. No kidding...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 03:04 PM
Feb 2020

We've known this for a very long time, now. It's not new. He learned from the "best:" Hitler. There was an article years ago noting that Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf next to his bed. Hitler was his mentor.

 
30. I'm at a loss about what we can do. Yes, we will vote and vote like our lives depend on it...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 05:23 PM
Feb 2020

Yes, we will rally around the Democratic candidate and work our assess off because our lives and the lives of our families and children...and future generations demand it.

However, it's all about the machines and other voter suppression tactics.

How can we do anything about this?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
31. Seth can be on my dream team to figure out
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:09 PM
Feb 2020

How the hell to stop the monster. Along with:

Psychiatrists
Admen
Dem strategists
Pollsters
Hollywood big $$$
Bill Clinton
James Carville


They do a secret retreat and can't leave until they have the best possible plan we can have!


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