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Jeebo

(2,028 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:13 PM Feb 2020

What if the courts decide against the con man on tax returns and subpoenas?

Adam Schiff said he wasn't going to wait for those cases to finish going through the courts because it was taking too long. "We're not going to spend months playing rope-a-dope with the president in the courts," he said. But now that the impeachment process has finished running its course, are those cases still going to be decided? What will happen if the orange raccoon loses them? What will happen when the appropriate congressional committees and the N.Y. state prosecutors and other interested parties FINALLY get to examine those tax returns and documents? Will they see why the con man and his lawyers fought tooth and nail against having that information revealed? Is there a possibility that other impeachable offenses will be uncovered? I suspect that is not only possible, but almost certain. Are more articles of impeachment and another Senate impeachment trial possible results of these reveals? I have spent hours watching MSNBC and listening to Thom Hartmann and other progressive talkers for the past two or three days, and I have yet to hear anybody address these issues.

-- Ron

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leftieNanner

(15,160 posts)
1. These issues have been on the back burner for a while
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:20 PM
Feb 2020

I believe SCOTUS is due to rule on the Don McGahn and tax documents cases in March (correct me if I'm wrong). Mazar's will deliver the information to Congress and they will have a look at what The Orange Raccoon (love that name!) has been hiding.

Adam Schiff will not hesitate to pursue him if there are other impeachable offenses. I think Donnie's attitude today was partly "You can't touch me!" and "Holy Shit I hope they don't find the other stuff!"

dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
2. They should go to court over everything and everyone.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:23 PM
Feb 2020

If it takes 2 years, so what, nothing left to lose.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
5. Tax Returns have limited information
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:47 PM
Feb 2020

He sells an apartment for 6 million. The return does not reveal the buyer. He gets royalty income of 2 million. Again we don’t know who is paying him. He pays nine million interest. We don’t know who the lender is. There may be limited information.

Jeebo

(2,028 posts)
7. I'd like to add...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:40 AM
Feb 2020

...that it USED to be a requirement for any candidate for the nation's highest office to release his/her tax returns. It used to go without saying that any candidate would do that, in fact. So HOW has this con man gotten away (so far) with not doing that? Part of the answer, of course, is that he uses the courts and his army of lawyers to get away with doing whatever he wants. Interminable litigation, threatening to sue somebody to keep them from doing something he doesn't want them to do, daring them to sue him (who can afford to get into lengthy litigation with a rich guy?), just plain legal bullying, threats and intimidation. And NOW he also gets to appoint the judges in those courts! We've GOT to get that orange raccoon out of office at the ballot box in November!

-- Ron

dware

(12,449 posts)
8. There has never been any legal requirement for a presidential candidate
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:47 AM
Feb 2020

to release their tax returns, it's always been voluntary.

https://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/candidates-tax-returns/

Candidates Are Not Legally Required to Release Tax Returns
No. There is no legal requirement of any kind that presidential candidates release tax returns from any year. Indeed, there is a strict, strong constitutional right to privacy for all tax returns. Thus, tax returns can be released by an individual taxpayer, but cannot released by the IRS to the public. However, one Senator has proposed legislation requiring presidential candidates to release tax returns.

dware

(12,449 posts)
9. Most modern presidential candidates have voluntarily released
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:05 AM
Feb 2020

their returns, some haven't, but, as I said, there is no legal or otherwise requirement to release tax returns.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Thinking ahead, what is out there that MIGHT make
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:36 AM
Feb 2020

A difference? (To any undecideds or swayables) Off the top of my head, thinking loans co-signed by Russia? Devastating to us, but nah, he'd just day he was selling them condos or some such BS.

Truly think it will take a very long time to uncover something fishy in his tax returns. Not like he's gonna have a line item "Due to Russia"

Even if NY indicts him, he will explain it as a vendetta. And drag it out til post election.

Hope I am wrong.

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