...regretted it to their dying day. Which would probly be tomorrow......if not sooner

Prosecutors said all four of the boys admitted in police statements that they sexually abused the girls, including holding down the 14-year-old girl and taking turns raping her

The boys claimed the sex was consensual,

Horrifying and the story made me sick to my stomach. How any of them could try to claim it was consensual when they had to hold her down makes me ill too.

do we considered that trash and garbage we feed our kids.

as many times as possible.

Muddy the case and possibly reduce the charges.

Not my area of expertise, just a guess.

send the little monsters to prison - that girls got a long time to live with being raped. if they get off (not a pun) it'll provide an out for every other asshole who "doesnt didn’t want to be a punk,"

girls are really wanting it when we are holding them down. all of society adn media telling our boys this.

sacarsm, people for those that actually think i may be serious. though i am absolutely serious.... but in a sarcastically disgusted, beyond disgusted way.

glad our gals no means yes and that this is not an honest rape.

wtfuckity fuck

and these fucking half wit animals.

Fucking hyenas.

whenever we discuss this issue?

really, what more do you expect, we are animals.

Okay then. >slowly backing away out the door<

have major gaps in their upbringing. Someone did not teach them anything about respect for themselves or others. They need to be removed from their current living situations and placed in foster care with foster parents who have a proven history of success. After they spend some time incarcerated, of course.

Something is really wrong in these boys lives, and it needs to be corrected soon, or they'll end up killing someone someday.

I'm curious to find out what influences in their lives (if any) molded their attitudes that females are little more than disposable fuck toys...

n/t

Sadly, this incident is not a unique case.

There's also a book called "Only Girl in the Car" which is also autobiographical from a victim's perspective. I didn't actually read that one. Didn't think I could stomach it

on the one hand they're 12/13. Easy enough to say they're kids who don't deserve severe punishment.

Then again it was a very adult crime, they don't seem at all repentant, and it took place over days. That doesn't smack of "salvageable kid who made a stupid mistake".

I'd be curious what the parents of the perpetrators have to say on their monumental failure in their responsibilities.

So it's really the fault of the girls' parents for not keeping them under lock and key.

The boys who RAPED THEM had nothing to do with it.

maybe they should have prefaced it with something like "obviously the boys are 100% to blame" or something about *their* parents.

But that's a valid question. If a child goes missing for 4 days . . . why didn't that raise an alarm?

I take that as similar to comments like "why did it take the cops 5 hours to show up when I called to report an armed robbery?" Obviously that isn't absolving the criminals of responsibility. But it is fair to hold those who are responsible to intervene accountable when they don't.

We still keep close tabs on them (kids 16 and 15). I don't know if we have a real parent in the bunch (victims and attackers).

Maybe the author of "Lord of the Flies" was right - without parental restraint you can expect this.

I think the kids should serve at least to 18 (probably 21).

writing an incomprehensible story.

1) the girls were 12 and 14 - if they were held and raped in their own house, one has to assume the boys attacked them AFTER the parents left for work (they used a key they knew was hidden) and left the house BEFORE the parents returned from work....OK, so why did it go on for 3 days? Why didn't they call the police or their parents/tell their parents the minute the boys left on the first day? Why did this go on for 3 days?
2) the four boys were out of school for the 3 days with no one wondering where they were? And the girls, too? Were the parents of any of them notified of their absence, ever? Here in VA, you get a call the morning your kid doesn't show his face, because teachers know kids are sneaks and want to nip that stuff in the bud.

Very weird story.

If I were the boys' lawyer, I could certainly make a case for the boys and girls deciding to stay home and party rather than go to school.

to allow all the readers to try to spread the blame around.

There must be SOMEONE besides the rapists to blame! They're just boys and they're good students.

Besides, those boys were probably just "trying to become her fantasy".



I guess they have year round schools there.

Regardless, even if the parents left them alone for a few days that does NOT remove ANY of the blame from those monsters.

At that age? Wow.

I don't mean roads and bridges, or partisan anger. I mean morally. I think that's the right word.

Senseless crime - violent crime - is so commonplace it barely rates a mention in the media.

I can't help but wonder if the glorification of sex and money and violence and self-interest in various forms of media has played a part in creating what we are witnessing. There seems to be a real contempt for law and common decency, and a disregard for the lives of others, instant self-satisfaction a prime motivator for so many. Take what you want - don't care about how it affects anyone else.

And we can't forget parents who are absent or apathetic or so wrapped up in their own selfish desires that they are derelict in their duties and responsibilities to raise children with a strong moral fiber and sense of right and wrong and respect for others.

Last night I watched a couple of videos of this "Honey Boo Boo" kid I keep hearing about. In one clip, this six year old girl was on stage doing a dance like you might see a stripper do, being led from the audience by her mother. A six year old gyrating and shaking her butt under the direction of her mom. And I just thought, wtf?

The phrase "garbage in, garbage out," comes to mind.

Not too long ago, this would have been considered a case of "boys will be boys" and the whole thing would have been covered up.

Everything else in your post, you're only aware of it because it's been brought to your attention by the media. Most of these things have been going on forever, they were just "covered-up" and/or the rest of us simply didn't know about it.

post.

it amazes me all we are seeing and having people tell us it does not have an influence. yet we will be all over fox for the mind warping there. because it does not fit our agenda, and for only that reason.

of these kids? This whole story is just disturbing and weird.

town in Western PA. From what I can gather, "a gang bang" implied a small group of young adolescent boys forcibly having sexual contact with a girl of about the same age. From what I can gather the boys who talked about doing such things did not in their own minds believe they were engaging in rape or even sexual assault. In fact I don't think they thought about it any more seriously than their bravado talk about "how far they went" with their "girl friend." I suspect such behavior as this is as old as the hills and much like the like the behavior of a priest improperly touching young boys - until relatively recently most people didn't eventhink about the implications and until relatively recently it didn't even register in a lot of peoples' minds as seriously criminal behavior.