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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:57 PM Feb 2020

Lt. Col. Vindman Fights Back And Calls Trump A Petty Liar

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/02/08/vindman-fights-back-calls-trump-petty-liar.html


Posted on Sat, Feb 8th, 2020 by Sean Colarossi
Lt. Col. Vindman Fights Back And Calls Trump A Petty Liar


Donald Trump has spent the past 24 hours attacking decorated war veteran Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who was physically removed from the White House on Friday as part of the president’s post-impeachment purge.

But the Purple Heart recipient fought back on Saturday in a statement from his lawyer, basically calling Trump a petty liar who is trying to intimidate anybody who stands up to him.

For Vindman, it appears Trump’s bullying isn’t working, and he’s punching back.

“The President this morning made a series of obviously false statements concerning Lieutenant Colonel Vindman,” the statement read. “While the most powerful man in the world continues his campaign of intimidation … Lieutenant Colonel Vindman continues his service to our country as a decorated, active duty member of our military.”


The full statement:

The President this morning made a series of obviously false statements concerning Lieutenant Colonel Vindman; they conflict with the clear personnel record and the entirety of the impeachment record of which the President is well aware. While the most powerful man in the world continues his campaign of intimidation, while too many entrusted with political office continue to remain silent, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman continues his service to our country as a decorated, active duty member of our military.


Trump is picking another fight with the military

Donald Trump and his supporters like to push the absurd idea that this president is a tough commander-in-chief with strong ties to the military, but time and again he has attacked decorated veterans.

It started early in Trump’s political career when he claimed late Sen. John McCain wasn’t a war hero because he was captured. It continued throughout the 2016 campaign when he waged an all-out assault on the Gold Star Khan family.

Now, Trump didn’t just drag a Purple Heart recipient out of the White House for speaking the truth about his Ukraine crimes, but he took to Twitter to smear him with lies and question his military service altogether.

At the end of the day, Trump seems to enjoy picking fights with men and women he knows are respected and revered in a way he’ll never be.

That’s clear in his latest back-and-forth with Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a man who has done something this president never has: honorably serve his country.
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Lt. Col. Vindman Fights Back And Calls Trump A Petty Liar (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2020 OP
He is an immature, vengeful bully and sadist. BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #1
To be kind he's an entitled piece of shit malaise Feb 2020 #2
That's why he hates her pandr32 Feb 2020 #19
+++ agree. nt iluvtennis Feb 2020 #21
If the pentagon truly supports one of their own... matt819 Feb 2020 #3
Sounds good.. but doubt it'll happen. mountain grammy Feb 2020 #4
I don't think they'll handle it that way. patphil Feb 2020 #10
I said this in an OP that went nowhere: kag Feb 2020 #5
Metal of Valor comes to mind....nt 2naSalit Feb 2020 #7
Col Vindman Peace06 Feb 2020 #13
It's the Medal of Honor, dware Feb 2020 #28
The Army should give him the Distinguished Service Medal sarge43 Feb 2020 #33
+100. nt dware Feb 2020 #34
How absurd this whole picture is! MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #36
I wonder when 2naSalit Feb 2020 #6
They should all keep fighting back. louis-t Feb 2020 #8
I can see him getting courts martial for UCMJ article about bashing jimfields33 Feb 2020 #9
Yep. dware Feb 2020 #30
You have to stand up to a bully andym Feb 2020 #11
Please folks! Traildogbob Feb 2020 #12
Beautifully stated!!! busterbrown Feb 2020 #22
Wow, Traildogbob Feb 2020 #29
Great post malaise Feb 2020 #24
Traildogbob - where have you been? MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #37
Thank you so much Traildogbob Feb 2020 #41
A wannabe bully, a full on coward. That's the Donald. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2020 #49
LTC Vindman took an oath to defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic. ooky Feb 2020 #14
trump needs a different kind of military to do his bidding without limit or question 0rganism Feb 2020 #15
And he pardons war criminals like Seal Gallagher. Rancid, corrosive, lawless "leadership" Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #16
Wow - hadn't thought of that! MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #38
I fear they are incapable of seeing anything. Blind allegience. Pretty scary Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #42
You can go to jfklibrary.org and nominate him for the Profile In Courage. TNNurse Feb 2020 #17
Trump is a petty liar and a narcissist. lpbk2713 Feb 2020 #18
rump's pettiness is not a good look. Perhaps too much bronzer is being used and he's poisoning... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #20
Since the Romans, lead was used in makeup with predictably bad effects jls4561 Feb 2020 #23
Vindman cannot personally fight back. He's still in the military. bitterross Feb 2020 #25
You are absolutely correct. dware Feb 2020 #32
Civilian Attorney bpj62 Feb 2020 #47
Stop calling this asshole "the most powerful man in the World, he is not, he is Putin's bitch! Perseus Feb 2020 #26
his support among active military has been halved. per military times. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #27
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Feb 2020 #31
Speaking of... llmart Feb 2020 #35
"Be Best Everyone!!!" MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #39
My cat is meaner then Trump xmas74 Feb 2020 #40
I hope the Democratic POTUS will seriously consider Vindman for head of NSC. Vinca Feb 2020 #43
I like to call him.. greymattermom Feb 2020 #44
He gives Limbaugh the Medal... Trueblue Texan Feb 2020 #45
I'm sure that it is not within the UCMJ to court martial Trump... LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #46
People who have fled tyranny have little truck with tyrants. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #48

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
1. He is an immature, vengeful bully and sadist.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:08 PM
Feb 2020

His cult is made up of sadists and bullies too, as well as wanna be bullies.

This is a good article about the characteristics of his cult followers and it makes sense.....

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/a-psychological-analysis-of-trump-supporters-has-uncovered-5-key-traits-about-them/

malaise

(269,144 posts)
2. To be kind he's an entitled piece of shit
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020

He assumes his right to be in charge and to belittle and disrespect at will - but only he and his goons have that right. That's why I love the Speaker - she has no fear of this bully.

pandr32

(11,601 posts)
19. That's why he hates her
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:43 PM
Feb 2020

He bullies and threatens and it rolls right off her like water on a duck's feathers.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
3. If the pentagon truly supports one of their own...
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:25 PM
Feb 2020

They should assign Vindman to a position that requires the wh to coordinate with vindman on all military matters involving Europe.

patphil

(6,196 posts)
10. I don't think they'll handle it that way.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:59 PM
Feb 2020

Remember, Trump is the Commander and Chief of the Military, even if he is a first rate jerk. No good would come from keeping Vindman out there in Trump's face.

Vindman will get a position out of the limelight for a while. If Trump loses, Vindman could get put back in a job similar to, or exactly the same as, the job he just left.
It's a matter of protecting him for now.


kag

(4,079 posts)
5. I said this in an OP that went nowhere:
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:33 PM
Feb 2020

Whichever Dem wins in November needs to give Vindman the Medal of Freedom (or whatever the military equivalent is).

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
33. The Army should give him the Distinguished Service Medal
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:41 PM
Feb 2020

It's one of highest non-combat awards.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
36. How absurd this whole picture is!
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 10:13 PM
Feb 2020

A decorated career officer is chased out of the White House because he was honoring his sworn duty, and a rotten, scum-loving lying, hating, rancid, racist, bloviating piece of s**t is "awarded" the Medal of Freedom by someone who could never serve his country because of a non-existing "medical" condition?

Really?

We HAVE to GET OUT THE VOTE - HE'S GOTTA' GO!!!!!!!

2naSalit

(86,743 posts)
6. I wonder when
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:36 PM
Feb 2020

the rank and file will literally turn on him. We may need them if things get too nasty.

He's dissed them all so much, I can see how a large number might not obey commands after a point.

jimfields33

(15,908 posts)
9. I can see him getting courts martial for UCMJ article about bashing
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:48 PM
Feb 2020

Commander in Chief. He has to be careful. He’s still on active duty.

dware

(12,423 posts)
30. Yep.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:33 PM
Feb 2020

Those that have never been in the military don't understand that.
I wish Lt. Col. Vindman all the best in the world, but don't give the Mango Menace another reason to retaliate.

andym

(5,445 posts)
11. You have to stand up to a bully
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:00 PM
Feb 2020

Col. Vindman and a few brave others are standing up to Trump and know that is the only way to preserve American liberties. Most, especially in the GOP refuse to.

Traildogbob

(8,790 posts)
12. Please folks!
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:03 PM
Feb 2020

Can everyone STOP calling him a bully? Most bullies can back up their mouths at least a little. This prick is a coward. Always had hired guns to protect his anus looking mouth hole. One on one, he will shit his diapers and cry like the brat he is. Stop insulting bullies. Pelosi could smack the shit eatin grin off off his facial anal orifice and make his spray-on run down his fat face and puddle under his many chins. Barron could kick his ass.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
22. Beautifully stated!!!
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:05 PM
Feb 2020

Such exquisite language... "anus looking mouth hole" "puddle under his many chins" words from the heart.. In fact it sounds like a bit from a famous author Madam Stael Holstein early 1800s..just so exquisite Traildogbob...

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
37. Traildogbob - where have you been?
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020

What a great post - perhaps I'm the one that's not been picking up on your postings.
So, please excuse my oversight, but DAMN IT, MAN, you nailed that one!
Great to have you in DU - a voice that needs to be heard!

Traildogbob

(8,790 posts)
41. Thank you so much
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 11:45 PM
Feb 2020

Been here all along. Feel at home here. Yesterday, my birthday. These responses made it great. Oh, and Fat boys never bully real well. They abuse women though to make em feel tough. Next women's March, toss his fat ass in the middle along with his two elder male spawn. Maybe next women's March, men can join and wear testicle hats to show some balls in the fight of our lives.

ooky

(8,926 posts)
14. LTC Vindman took an oath to defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:11 PM
Feb 2020

That's exactly what he doing too.

Trump would be wise to start cutting his losses and leave this American hero alone. He is making himself look worse and worse by the minute, and LTC Vindman is standing tall.

0rganism

(23,962 posts)
15. trump needs a different kind of military to do his bidding without limit or question
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020

already some in the military are sufficiently vapid and bloodthirsty but there remains a core of patriotic leadership loyal to the Constitution and the Republic, men and women who have actually read the Constitution and know precisely what they took an oath to protect. those people must be purged for Trump to finally have his way.

he needs an army of devoted unreasoning criminal fanatics, ready to commit arbitrary murder on his behalf. true patriots stand in the way of such madness.

this is where the "deep state" bullshit will be called in, for use in propaganda to explain the military purge. the next step in seizing absolute power is to destroy and denigrate the ideals of the past -- honesty, loyalty, decency, compassion. everything must go. once that mentality is sufficiently prevalent, peer pressure will sufficiently restrain the rest. only then can a widespread purge of the general population begin. the army can be deployed abroad to spread his ridiculous imperial decrees or do paid gigs for some Saudi prince while paramilitary cultist militias patrol America's streets with the blessing of local police, enforcing the "Trump Codes".

Evolve Dammit

(16,754 posts)
16. And he pardons war criminals like Seal Gallagher. Rancid, corrosive, lawless "leadership"
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:29 PM
Feb 2020

He loves the sub-humans and will accelerate.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
38. Wow - hadn't thought of that!
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 11:25 PM
Feb 2020

He pardons a war criminal and fires a decorated military soldier doing his duty.
Is there a single Republican in this country that might perhaps see a problem with this?

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
20. rump's pettiness is not a good look. Perhaps too much bronzer is being used and he's poisoning...
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:50 PM
Feb 2020

himself?

jls4561

(1,259 posts)
23. Since the Romans, lead was used in makeup with predictably bad effects
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:08 PM
Feb 2020

So perhaps there is something toxic that orange goo B.O.B. smears on himself.

However, he's cut the budget for the FDA, so how is he to know?

Poetic justice? I dunno, but it may be the only kind we will get before November.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
25. Vindman cannot personally fight back. He's still in the military.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:25 PM
Feb 2020

Vindman cannot, personally, issue any statement. For him to do so might violate military regulations and rules regarding respect for the CIC. NOT that the current CIC deserves any respect. He should probably reign in his attorney - just to be safe. I don't want him Courts Marshalled.

dware

(12,423 posts)
32. You are absolutely correct.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:36 PM
Feb 2020

He can face a Court Martial under the articles of the UCMJ and I've no doubt that the Mango Menace is already on the phone to the JCS demanding he be charged.

bpj62

(999 posts)
47. Civilian Attorney
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:19 PM
Feb 2020

As long as the statements are attributed to his attorney there is nothing Trump can do because the attorney is not subject to the UCMJ. Vindeman would have to personally issue a statement hinself. Also Vindeman does have the right to defend himself from false allegations made by the President or his staff. Vindeman has friends in high places who will look out for him. My fear is that Trump is going to try and purge the military of anyone who doesnt swear absolute allegiance to him. Once you control the military you can do what you want.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
26. Stop calling this asshole "the most powerful man in the World, he is not, he is Putin's bitch!
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:26 PM
Feb 2020

How can that be a powerful man? Please! don't they know how big his head (not the brain), but the head gets when he is called that? the biggest problem is that he believes it.

HE IS NOT THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD, HE IS PUTIN'S BITCH! HE IS A SERVANT OF PUTIN< HOW CAN THAT MAKE HIM POWERFUL?

llmart

(15,548 posts)
35. Speaking of...
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 08:51 PM
Feb 2020

isn't there someone in DC who is supposedly promoting an amazing anti-bullying program? Whatever happened to that initiative? Seems like this would be a perfect example of someone who needs the program.

Usually it's reserved for adolescents - hey wait. This one is an adolescent.

Be Best Everyone!!!

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
40. My cat is meaner then Trump
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 11:34 PM
Feb 2020

And he hides from strangers.

If Trump's daddy didn't provide him with enough milk money as a child to pay off his bullies he'd have had his ass handed to him years ago.

LiberalFighter

(51,020 posts)
46. I'm sure that it is not within the UCMJ to court martial Trump...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:44 PM
Feb 2020

even though he is considered in the military because of the Constitution.
But nothing should stop having a mock court martial and have it highly publicize after he leaves office of course.

Oh Oh -- And have Lt. Col. Vindman preside over it.

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