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America's fatal flaw: The founders assumed our leaders would have some basic decency
Our democracy was founded on optimism about human nature. Amid the Trumpian wreckage, that looks like a bad bet
David Masciotra
February 8, 2020 5:15PM (UTC)
No historian or political scientist has better explained the fragility of American democracy than a poet. When I interviewed the poet Rita Dove three years ago, she offered the following assessment of exactly how a sociopathic president like Donald Trump could inflict irreparable damage on institutions of governance, and the norms written and unwritten that have directed them for centuries:
Decency, in other words, was a bulwark against the corrupt impulses and wicked instincts of men in power. Even Richard Nixon, who had no compunction when persecuting citizen activists or illegally bombing Cambodia, recognized that he was a participant within an important system of laws. Eventually, he was forced to surrender to those laws. Fealty to American order has also motivated unwise and harmful behavior, such as Al Gore agreeing to accept the results of an election under suspicion of fraud for the "good of the country." The erosion of faith in American institutions and their democratic objectives, Gore and Nixon appeared to believe, would create chaos a fracturing of the public, and a collapse of the government's ability to preserve societal stability.
Faith, like decency, is intangible. It will disappear the second that people no longer honor it or act on it. As Dove explained, decency was essential to the maintenance of the rule of law and governmental functionality in the United States. The election of the most indecent man to ever hold the office of presidency in the modern era was a warning shot across the country. After mocking a disabled reporter, routinely denigrating women and providing encouragement to his "Second Amendment people" if Hillary Clinton became president, he put decency on a gun-range target. What's even more frightening is how quickly his fellow Republicans in Congress and his supporters in the media got in line, rifles in hand, to shoot holes in it.
The recent events of Trump's acquittal in the Senate, his State of the Union address and his spiteful, rambling monologue at the White House on Thursday have collectively acted as the flatline on the heart monitor of decency. As decency dies, American life becomes ever more precarious.
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Skittles
(153,174 posts)the Founding Fathers envisioned a corrupt president - they did not account for an ENTIRE PARTY having his back
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Too many Americans have no sense of decency. The articles started there pointing out that Americans elected trump. Not a majority but too many.
The article, which I liked, went on to talk about the indecency of pundits like Limbaugh.
It reminded me of Lincolns quote about not able to fool most of the people all the time. Too many have been fooled for too long. Theyve lost whatever sense of decency they once had.
coti
(4,612 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,279 posts)unblock
(52,285 posts)The founders most definitely assumed bad behavior would arise. That's the whole point of having a separation of powers and checks and balances.
Moreover, none of them were arrogant enough to think that the form of government they created would last centuries. They understood that governments bend towards corruption. They figured revolutions were necessary from time to time.
I think they did anticipate something like this corrupting government. They just didn't have a better solution.
That said, it worked, in a way, well enough, for quite a long time...
coti
(4,612 posts)free media. And that won't stop any time soon.
As long as we have access to the truth, democracy lives.
unblock
(52,285 posts)I briefly dated a Russian-American when I was in high school back in the Cold War days.
We would go to the library and she would read Pravda. I asked wasn't all just propaganda.
She said the truth is there, you just have to know how to read it.
Her family had defected to America.
Access to the truth is not enough.
coti
(4,612 posts)The 1st Amendment is the difference, and it's going to save us.
unblock
(52,285 posts)It's all in how it's enforced in practice.
Too many trump judges in place and we're screwed
struggle4progress
(118,320 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)trump has NO DECENCY at all, and the founders could never have imagined someone like trump becoming president!
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)I have found the concept very useful regarding the issues with trump and the political problems we now face.
http://www.ponerology.com