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PCIntern

(25,556 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:07 PM Feb 2020

You know it hasn't occurred to me until last night:

Among the most remarkably well-received performances on screen during the last few decades are the Batman Comic Joker, beginning with Jack Nicholson, and extending through several stars. In addition, we have now idolized characters in mob movies who are transcendentally evil and sociopathic: Joe Pesci in almost any role, Michael Corleone, the boss in Kansas City(?) in Casino, Paulie in Goodfellas, you get the point....

These are the new heroes in America: strong, occasionally brilliant sociopaths, who are perceived as nearly-infallible by their acolytes and politically and legally indestructible. This is nothing new: we idolized Al Capone as well. Trump is a know-nothing who was bolstered by years of familiarity in the sensational tabloid press, and the gigantic level of hatred emanating from many millions. It is no wonder that in our cinematic idolization of autocrats and dictators that the nation elevated one to its pinnacle of leadership. The only question is what, if anything, will change all of this for the better?

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You know it hasn't occurred to me until last night: (Original Post) PCIntern Feb 2020 OP
Very interesting perspective MANative Feb 2020 #1
You're joking right?... lame54 Feb 2020 #2
People who voted for Trump PCIntern Feb 2020 #3
Of course they go to the movies... lame54 Feb 2020 #5
Remember J R Ewing? His popularity (and status as a sex symbol) shook my faith in humanity. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #4
We have always been fascinated with villains. nolabear Feb 2020 #6
Fear KT2000 Feb 2020 #7

MANative

(4,112 posts)
1. Very interesting perspective
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020

I didn't like any of those movies, and decided not to even bother with The Joker. Predictive of my active loathing of Trump? Not unlikely.

lame54

(35,294 posts)
2. You're joking right?...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:42 PM
Feb 2020

Trumpers hate Hollywood

Hollywooders hate Trump

What the hell are you talking about?

What else is to blame? Video games? Rap music?

lame54

(35,294 posts)
5. Of course they go to the movies...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:53 PM
Feb 2020

But scream about the evils of Hollywood because they are hypocrites

We've been hearing this for years
Is this new to you?

Blaming pop culture for Trumpism is bullshit

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
4. Remember J R Ewing? His popularity (and status as a sex symbol) shook my faith in humanity.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:51 PM
Feb 2020

And Archie Bunker, who was supposed to be a parody of buffoonish conservatives, actually became a role model to some.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
6. We have always been fascinated with villains.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:56 PM
Feb 2020

They’re scary and we always want to know why they do what they do. This is nothing new in any kind of art.

KT2000

(20,584 posts)
7. Fear
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:57 PM
Feb 2020

His followers are enticed by fear and have it fed to them every day through their media. Thus, they want a strong man to save them. His act is the tough guy and they think he will keep them safe, not realizing he is the source of the fear mongering. Throw in resentment and racism brought to us by the president and his minions and they see the answer to most of their perceived problems, such as failure.

What will change is when people realize they have been scammed and the curtain is pulled back is all I can think of. Portraying them as victims of this snake oil salesman might help. They like being victims of just about everything.

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