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Last edited Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:19 AM - Edit history (1)
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Barbara Starr ✔@barbarastarrcnn
BTW @starsandstripes newspaper can be read in hardcopy real newsprint in locations around the world where troops cannot use their phones because of concerns their locations will be tracked.
Idrees Ali✔@idreesali114
Pentagon says funding for Stars and Stripes will be cut because it decided that "coming into the modern age, that newspapers (are) probably not the best way that we communicate any longer." In many cases, Stars and Stripes is the only publication available to troops at bases.
2:17 PM - Feb 10, 2020
On edit: I just gave a cursory glance at S&S stories from the past week. This opinion piece jumped out at me, from Feb 4th (orig published in the WaPo on 2/3/21, but reprinted in S&S the following day) :
No, Trump hasnt learned a lesson on misusing taxpayer funds
By SAM BERGER | Special to The Washington Post | Published: February 4, 2020
As President Donald Trumps Senate impeachment trial winds down, more than one GOP senator has tried to justify plans to vote against removing him by suggesting that Trump has been chastened he may have done something wrong and inappropriate, as Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, described it, but hes learned a lesson, and thats good enough. On Sunday in an interview for NBC News Meet the Press, Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said that if a call like Trumps call with Ukraines President Volodymyr Zelenskiy gets you an impeachment, I would think he would think twice before he did it again. On Sunday, when asked by CNNs Jake Tapper whether she is confident that he wont do this again, Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, replied, I think he knows now that, if he is trying to do certain things he needs to go through the proper channels.
But Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., had it right on Monday when he argued before the Senate that Trump will not change and he will do it again. Why? Because Trumps misuse of taxpayer funds, at the heart of his impeachment, is part of a pattern.
The Government Accountability Office, a nonpartisan government agency charged with overseeing the use of taxpayer money, found that the Trump administrations hold on congressionally appropriated military aid to Ukraine was illegal, as it violated the Impoundment Control Act. And a series of emails between the Office of Management and Budget and the Defense Departments acting comptroller show that the White House was on notice that it was acting outside the law. In fact, as the GAO noted in its decision: Congress was concerned about exactly these types of withholdings when it enacted and later amended the ICA.
Its not the first time Trump has violated budgetary laws to further his aims. In 2018, Trump shut down the federal government, refusing to sign a government spending bill unless it included funding for his border wall. As the shutdown stretched on, however, he became increasingly concerned about the public response. So, ignoring the law, he began reopening parts of the government to try to reduce the political pain of his actions. Most notably, he recalled tens of thousands of IRS employees to ensure that processing of tax refunds would not be delayed.
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It's a pretty harsh assessment of Trump. I wonder if he got wind that it was in S&S and that's why they made a quick decision (so quick, the publisher, Gannett, had no idea it was going to happen *until* they read about it in the WSJ yesterday) to cut its funding?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)November can't get here fast enough.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)S&S is actually a pretty fair publication. I get the sense they would rather supplant it with Faux or, worse, OAN.
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)Watergate coverage was very good. I was rather surprised how good their journalism was back in those days.
OnlinePoker
(5,722 posts)Every time we'd go into Pearl or San Diego, I'd look for S&S. They still had surprisingly good reporting and weren't averse to going after the administration or military command.
SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)When I was stationed in Germany ('79-'81) we would get the paper every morning, and pretty much nothing got done in the shop until we'd read it and done the crossword puzzle (and also listened to the daily episode of 'Chickenman' on Armed Forces Radio).
Our main sources of news at the time was S&S and AFN radio & TV. The radio outlet's news usually seemed to be somewhat slanted, so on the swing or mid shift we'd tune in to Radio Moscow on shortwave to get *their* slant on big stories, and figure that the truth was somewhere in the middle.
S&S seemed to usually hit that sweet spot of objectivity pretty well.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Link to tweet
Kevin Baron ✔@DefenseBaron
The Pentagon didnt even tell @starsandstripes publisher it was requesting a total cut of its operations budget until after the @WSJ reported a cut was coming, Monday morning.
Nikki Wentling @nikkiwentling
More details on the Pentagons proposed cut to @StarsandStripes: Publisher Max Lederer said Pentagon officials told him it would eliminate operating and maintenance funds" for Stripes, which amounts to about $7 million and about 35% of annual expenses. https://www.stripes.com/news/us/pentagon-proposes-stripping-stars-and-stripes-funding-in-2021-budget-request-1.618273
6:21 PM - Feb 10, 2020
dalton99a
(81,516 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)This opinion piece jumped out at me, from Feb 4th (orig published in the WaPo on 2/3/21, but reprinted in S&S the following day) :
By SAM BERGER | Special to The Washington Post | Published: February 4, 2020
As President Donald Trumps Senate impeachment trial winds down, more than one GOP senator has tried to justify plans to vote against removing him by suggesting that Trump has been chastened he may have done something wrong and inappropriate, as Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, described it, but hes learned a lesson, and thats good enough. On Sunday in an interview for NBC News Meet the Press, Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said that if a call like Trumps call with Ukraines President Volodymyr Zelenskiy gets you an impeachment, I would think he would think twice before he did it again. On Sunday, when asked by CNNs Jake Tapper whether she is confident that he wont do this again, Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, replied, I think he knows now that, if he is trying to do certain things he needs to go through the proper channels.
But Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., had it right on Monday when he argued before the Senate that Trump will not change and he will do it again. Why? Because Trumps misuse of taxpayer funds, at the heart of his impeachment, is part of a pattern.
The Government Accountability Office, a nonpartisan government agency charged with overseeing the use of taxpayer money, found that the Trump administrations hold on congressionally appropriated military aid to Ukraine was illegal, as it violated the Impoundment Control Act. And a series of emails between the Office of Management and Budget and the Defense Departments acting comptroller show that the White House was on notice that it was acting outside the law. In fact, as the GAO noted in its decision: Congress was concerned about exactly these types of withholdings when it enacted and later amended the ICA.
Its not the first time Trump has violated budgetary laws to further his aims. In 2018, Trump shut down the federal government, refusing to sign a government spending bill unless it included funding for his border wall. As the shutdown stretched on, however, he became increasingly concerned about the public response. So, ignoring the law, he began reopening parts of the government to try to reduce the political pain of his actions. Most notably, he recalled tens of thousands of IRS employees to ensure that processing of tax refunds would not be delayed.
</snip>
It's a pretty harsh assessment of Trump. I wonder if he got wind that it was in S&S and that's why they made a quick decision (so quick, the publisher, Gannett, had no idea it was going to happen *until* they read about it in the WSJ yesterday) to cut its funding?
(on edit: tacking this on the OP itself given how curious the timing is)
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)So now he's set out on purging anything that doesn't suck up to him. People in the armed forces aren't stupid and they do have cell phones and laptops. S&S is not their only news source. I suppose there are top brass who not only suck up, but are likely huge supporters. It's just a shit show all the way around. What a horrible time in the history of our country.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)pwb
(11,276 posts)Shit like this.