to McConnell, well, there's no comparison.

Why do some progressives think ideas that are popular in the heavy blue states are popular in red states. It's why moderates win House and Gov races there. Good Grief, there is a segment of this party that will keep us a minority for decades. Let Amy run a Kentucky race.

Let her jets fly around and flags wave or whatever shit she thinks will win R voters over - but IGNORE progressive ideas instead of belittling them

Period. Full stop.
This is NOT a gentleman's bout of fisticuffs, THIS IS A KNIFE FIGHT.

I am sick to death of our "not progressive enough" bullshit. Do we like tRump* and tRump*ism taking over our country?

I don't need a KY candidate to sound like AOC. I need someone to sound like whatever "defeating the second most dangerous man in the country" sounds like.

All she's doing by mentioning it is conceding a right wing talking point which makes Mitch McConnell look like he's not a full blown lying piece of shit.

Messages to one's potential constituency should be targeted directly to that constituency.

with Trump enough isn't resonating with Democrats? Huh.

she's not McConnell and her election might put Democrats in charge of the Senate. It's unlikely Kentucky would ever elect the person progressives want and they just have to get over it because the alternative to McGrath is much, much worse.

That is all that matters.

sucks, but reality is. If she unseats McConnell and votes Dem 80-90% of the time, I can dig it.

It Ken-fucking-tucky fer cryin' out loud.

...for his consistently non-progressive voting record.

I had to LOL when my friend demanded that Jones be primaried by a true progressive!

Jones is the first Dem senator in Alabama in decades, yet this far-left-winger thought voters of this ruby-red state would elect an ideologically pure progressive!

Jesus Christ this push-back is tone-deaf.

Raising their profile by highlighting your opposition to their ideas is no different than saying "Vote for me, I hate liberals, too!!"

It's politics for the lazy

She needs to signal to racist white Kentuckians that she's "safe" to vote for. We don't get that seat unless she manages to do that.

Seems it would be easier to do by a primary challenge to McConnell

But, whatever

I canvassed for Obama in KY and WV back in 2008. I had a depressing number of people respond, "Yeah, we're voting for the n****r".

She needs the racist vote to win. And we need that seat.

As long as Donald fucking Trump slinks out of the White House in January of 2021, I'll adapt.

If McGrath can get them to rationalize not voting for McConnell, that may be enough to unseat him.

Do you live in an 80% red area?

Half the eligible voters in the US don't vote

There's not much motivation to vote GOP vs Less-GOP

It's statistically true throughout the US

McConnell goes to lobbying school and the Dems get closer to control of the Senate. McGrath is running as a Democrat, and she'll likely vote with Dems at least 85% of the time. I don't care if she's the darling of the moonshine coalition. There's a "D" beside her name. I'm fairly close to the edge of "left" on the continuum, but Kentucky is not the same as my state. I'll take a "D".

That would be a start.

Running progressives in red states or districts hasn't been terribly successful. Certainly wasn't in 2018.

Gotta do what works in the environment.

But taking out McConnell is far more important.

She runs what the state voters will support

wow.

do they sip lattes in their welfare cadillacs as well?

not MFA or free college.

but we have our governor now.

We exist. Amy is just not that great of a candidate, I saw her twice and donated money.
I will vote for her, but I know we must have a stronger person somewhere.

So is my mom and my sister. I've been a lurker here since shrubs inauguration. But there are lots of very ignorant people here that believes all news besides Fox is fake. Another thing is they blamed Obama for their high health insurance premiums. Many Kentuckians hated the idea of expanding Medicaid but now that we have it they can't get enough of it. So even though many Kentuckians might be opposed to those liberal ideas, I'm sure they would embrace them once they are passed and implemented. Also Andy Beshear won here largely because Bevin was framed as a horrible human being, not as a republican. I think if McGrath did the same against Moscow Mitch it would help her a lot.

It's Kentucky

A strong Obamacare with a public option, expanded Medicare and Medicaid eligibility, and strong regulation of insurance providers is not exactly a regressive conservative position.

She’s running in Kentucky. Those are solid and achievable platform points that would benefit her state. Sounds fine to me.

I like service for college tuition ideas - especially if there’s non-military options focusing on environmental, community, or health service. Is just my opinion, but I would have benefited from such when I was in the worst of my PTSD years as a young adult. I just get a little excited when I hear those type solutions.

I’m pleased with my angry-at-Moscow Mitch donations to her campaign over the recent weeks. Is a good ad.

She is running for Senator in Kentucky, for heavens sake. She has to speak to her constituents, not people in some other state.

these people???

It reminds me of the days in 2014 of Charlie Crist running to unseat Rick Scott for governor. Crist had been a former republican. People on this board hated him, and focused on that more than they focused on the actual republican. Scott is now a Senator and voted to acquit 45. Crist is barely noticeable in his district as Representative.


Thank God for those Progressives, right?

Just as job #1 for national Dems is unseating il drumpf. It's Kentucky and she has to appeal to Kentuckians to win.

came from some long time prominent Ky family.

Her thing was to run far away from Obama. Never mentioned his name, etc.

Didn't get her far.

Don't be a rethug lite its a loser game.

It doesn't always work, but running as a liberal hasn't worked yet in these states and districts.

Do whatever it takes to win (but no cheating... unless Mitch is cheating, then we gotta even the playing field).

on MFA or college tuition than some of our presidential candidates, so she's not that extreme.

Rule #1 is know you're audience, and this seems like it would play well in Kentucky. Anything to take down fucking McTurtle gets my support.

and shows why progressives shouldn't be guiding her strategy

She knows she lives in Kentucky and the importance of defeating McConnell!!

So I can hardly blame her, given she's in Kentucky.

"Tuition Support"
"Tuition Reform"
"Lowering Tuition Costs"
"Early Medicare Buy-In"
"Public Option"
"Lowering Health Care Costs"

Much better names.

Not ones with 'Free' (when it's not) and not ones with Mandates ('For All', like you WILL have this, like it or not).

She should be running negative as hell