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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:44 PM Feb 2020

You know how the right wing is constantly having 'socialism' vapours?

The horrendous and quite frankly ludicrous attacks on what is seen as ‘liberal’ in the States are just good manners, reasonable behaviour towards your neighbours, and support for human rights for everyone, elsewhere in the west...

Socialism my arse...

These liars have perpetrated one of the most harmful con jobs in the last 50 years, on those that need help the most, with their rhetoric and fear mongering…

Just sayin' because 'We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men' George Orwell

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You know how the right wing is constantly having 'socialism' vapours? (Original Post) Soph0571 Feb 2020 OP
Been going that way for a long, long time... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #1
Socialism vs Fascism kentuck Feb 2020 #2
Not really JHB Feb 2020 #6
K&R. Truth. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2020 #3
it serves the robber barons of GOP ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #4
Exactly this!!!! Soph0571 Feb 2020 #5
Note to conservatives: Initech Feb 2020 #10
Gullible Obtuse Patsies for Greedy Oligarch Patrons Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #12
It isn't Socialism. Swfladem Feb 2020 #7
I keep reminding that FDR (openly liberal socialist) was elected four times! Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #8
This also Soph0571 Feb 2020 #11
We already have socialism but for rich people. Initech Feb 2020 #9
On the other hand, why is being a "Conservative" a good thing? Brother Mythos Feb 2020 #13

Wounded Bear

(58,728 posts)
1. Been going that way for a long, long time...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 01:46 PM
Feb 2020

RWers complain endlessy about "political correctness" which, if you look at it is just good manners.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
6. Not really
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020

Applying the word "socialism" to what anyone in the Democratic party (including a certain independent) is a misuse and abuse of the term (including by a...).

I will, on occasion, refer to myself as an "Eisenhower socialist" whenever I think it will highlight how far the terms of political language have been dragged to the right. Once upon a time only ranting cranks and guys muttering in the gin & tonics in country club bars used such an expansive version of "socialist". Fifty-sixty years of conservatives working over the media (and bending to them so as to not appear to have "liberal bias" ) has made the ranting-crank version the current norm.

And it's bullshit.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
3. K&R. Truth.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:26 PM
Feb 2020

They're doing the bidding of their corporate masters and have dozens of "think" tanks to dream up and support the bullshit.

It's happening in too many nations around the world.

Socialism is just one of many English words they have abused beyond recognition, with "conservative" being the worst.

KY......

Initech

(100,107 posts)
10. Note to conservatives:
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:42 PM
Feb 2020

The people who are mooching off your paycheck aren't illegal immigrants. They're your bosses! But yeah let's blame immigrants because it's what the big fat guy on the radio told us that's what we should hate.

 

Swfladem

(88 posts)
7. It isn't Socialism.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:40 PM
Feb 2020

It’s taxation with representation of the American people. Socialism, capitalism and communism are all simply economic philosophies, not government types. I’ll be honest, to the uninformed, the word socialism is hurting the cause. Most Americans have spent their whole lives being told the evils of socialism and communism and the greatness of capitalism. A lot of these same Americans took nothing else from any history, social studies or civics class. “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet”. The word itself hurts. The ideas are as American as they come. Provide for the poor. Heal the sick. Educate the downtrodden. These are basic fundamentals of a society that lasts. Without them, whole countries have failed in a period of a generation.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
8. I keep reminding that FDR (openly liberal socialist) was elected four times!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:33 PM
Feb 2020

And our most beloved president.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
11. This also
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:08 PM
Feb 2020
Socialism is a scareword they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years. Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people. Harry S. Truman, speech, October 10, 1952

Initech

(100,107 posts)
9. We already have socialism but for rich people.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:39 PM
Feb 2020

It's in the form of bailouts for billionaires and subsidies for mega corporations. They get it all and we get nothing.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
13. On the other hand, why is being a "Conservative" a good thing?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:20 PM
Feb 2020

Frankly, I'm not seeing it, based upon the behavior of the "Conservatives" in power in our country.

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