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struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:21 PM Feb 2020

Why he asked Ukraine to look into a DNC "server" and CrowdStrike

2020 Feb 16
Scott Pelley

... Last July, President Trump made the phone call to Ukraine that led to impeachment. He asked the president of Ukraine to investigate a mysterious Democratic National Committee computer server that Mr. Trump said was hidden in Ukraine. We have found that odd request is a story that has grown over the years and was influenced by Moscow ...

"Ukraine's security is important to our security and the reason I believe that is that Ukraine is on the frontline," Taylor told correspondent Scott Pelley. "The Russians are fighting a hybrid war against Ukraine, but it's not just about Ukraine, they are fighting a hybrid war against Europe and against the United States" ...

... U.S. intelligence agencies found, "…the Russian government aspired to help President-elect Trump's election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton ..."

"If you read the intelligence report, it's the consensus view of three intelligence agencies; CIA, NSA and the FBI," Kendall-Taylor said ...

... "They're picking up on elements or narratives that already exist in a society and amplifying those narratives that advance Russian interests," Kendall-Taylor said ...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-crowdstrike-ukraine-server-conspiracy-theory-60-minutes-2020-02-16/

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applegrove

(118,659 posts)
1. Typical psychopathic behaviour by russia. Why does Trump not see it?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:24 PM
Feb 2020

Because it is Trump's very own conspiracy theory. Because it flatters him by implying Trump won the election fair and square.

"SNIP.....

They're picking up on elements or narratives that already exist in a society and amplifying those narratives that advance Russian interests," Kendall-Taylor said ... 

.....SNIP"

gembaby1

(253 posts)
10. Yep
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:14 AM
Feb 2020

Accuse other people of doing the exact thing you are doing. Do it boldly and loudly so people have a hard time believing you’d say something that shocking if there wasn’t any truth in it.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
2. " Because it is Trump's very own conspiracy theory"
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:53 PM
Feb 2020

I believe it was Putin who pushed this "new" narrative. tRump just did what he was told and backed Putin's line.... Putin wanted to move the idea that Russia meddled in the '16 election.
Ya know when you borrow a bucket load of money from Russia you got to do what your told..
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certainot

(9,090 posts)
8. been going on for at least a decade. russia seeds the stories through 'journos' like corsi or
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:02 AM
Feb 2020

breitbart or soloman and then the next day limbaugh blows it all over 600 of the loudest radio staiotns in the country and then another 1000 the next week, imitating those.

putin told trump stone to study talk radio and that's why they got sam nunberg to listen to "1000s of hours of talk radio" in 2014 and write reports and as many times as nunberg has been on msnbc the knuckleheads never ask him about when he said that - so the collusion continues right under their noses - putin feeds talk radio then it goes to fox/trump

trump's whole playbook is talk radio based, with fox doing the cartoon cliff notes version and limbaugh getting the medal and media and dems not even polling trumpers for talk radio

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
12. " and limbaugh getting the medal and media "
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:29 PM
Feb 2020

Not to be crass but he wont be around too much to do tRumps mouth work...
if If IF the lung stuff is true... color me sceptic.. This guy lies like whale shit and that sits on the bottom of the ocean...
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VladmireTrumpkins

(370 posts)
3. Thanks for posting this
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:13 PM
Feb 2020

Everyone should see this but of course the Trump bots wil claim its all "fake news" and go with the Russian version..

videohead5

(2,172 posts)
4. So he was saying they were trying to hide the server?
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:47 PM
Feb 2020

When all they had to do is destroy the hard drive. This is why this crazy conspiracy is so stupid.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
5. jebus wept. one of these days media will figure it out - limbaugh was talking about the deep state
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

bullshit since inauguration

all the russians had to do was feed limbaugh, it goes out on 600 stations then amplified and repeated on 1000 more and then fox and by the white house

anyone can make crap up - to get it repeated and pushed into the mainstream with days, weeks, and even years of repetition is what 1500 unchallenged coordinated radio stations are for, and something only they/it could do thanks to being completely ignored by its victims and targets because it hurts their ears

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
11. No. Not a data provider.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:42 PM
Feb 2020

Crowdstrike is a cyber security firm. Used by both the Democratic and Republican party. The Democrats, when they suspected they had been hacked, contacted Crowdstrike to investigate the breach. As is typical they took and image of the DNC server to examine and find the breach.

One of the owners of Crowdstrike is Ukrainian. Trump got it into his feeble little mind (or was told) that the physical DNC server had been taken to Ukraine.

Here is a pretty good run down on why Trump seems obsessed with Crowdstrike.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/tech/what-is-crowdstrike/index.html

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
9. This segment on 60 Minutes tonight was really good
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:11 AM
Feb 2020

I've become disenchanted with the show because they have a subgenre on the show, Billionaires Who Are Saving Us All If We Let Them, that I find distasteful--and they have a segment like that seemingly every other week, in stark contrast to the old days when the show used to muckrake against large corporations.

Anyhow, this segment took tRump's nutty conspiracy apart piece by piece and kept showing clips of tRump saying something followed by Mr Pelley saying, "but that wasn't true." It was one of the best debunkings of him I've seen on network TV,

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