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99 new virus cases on Diamond Princess cruise ship (Original Post) Leghorn21 Feb 2020 OP
These regrettable cruise ship quarantines seem so much like floating Petri dishes . . . Journeyman Feb 2020 #1
That is what I am thinking. How do you NOT get sick. krissey Feb 2020 #2
US citizens were permitted to evacuate to the US Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #4
Looks like he made the right decision. CNN reporting that 14 people on the evacuation helpisontheway Feb 2020 #7
As opposed to the hundreds infected on the ship jpak Feb 2020 #8
Only people that tested negative were supposed to be evacuated helpisontheway Feb 2020 #17
I seriously doubt the people on the ship will be released without proper quarantine OFF the ship lostnfound Feb 2020 #11
This is INSANE. They are guaranteeing everyone on board will eventually be infected. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #3
See my post above. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #5
That guy doesn't "disagree" with me. He wants everyone on the ship tested. So do I. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #18
They are testing all. 70% of those testing positive show no symptoms. Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #19
That passenger refusing to leave says they're not testing all. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #20
On a better note, Macau will reopen on Thursday Leghorn21 Feb 2020 #6
Have you been following the coverage? No way it's true, unfortunately. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #10
Hey girl - yeah, I'm leery of the numbers we're getting overall from poor ravaged China in general Leghorn21 Feb 2020 #12
We can certainly hope, meanwhile the footage coming dewsgirl Feb 2020 #14
You beat me to it. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #9
...and I just came here to post the same thing. Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #13
LoL🤣 dewsgirl Feb 2020 #15
Yikes. That would be my worse nightmare. catbyte Feb 2020 #16

Journeyman

(15,035 posts)
1. These regrettable cruise ship quarantines seem so much like floating Petri dishes . . .
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:18 AM
Feb 2020

I can't imagine the terror for those stuck on there, both the passengers and the crew.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
4. US citizens were permitted to evacuate to the US
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:00 AM
Feb 2020

And one of the main public voices about life on the ship - decided it was safer than evacuating and being taken with people who may be contagious to the off-ship quarantine area.

An American lawyer and his wife are refusing to evacuate the coronavirus-stricken cruise ship docked off the coast of Japan — because they say they feel safer aboard.

. . .

Smith said he’s skeptical about the government’s plan to evacuate citizens on two flights to the US, since some of the travelers could be sick. . . . “If we stay on board through next week, we will be tested and will likely come up negative,” he tweeted.

“But the U.S. Government instead wants to take us off without testing, fly us back to the U.S. with a bunch of other untested people, and then stick us in 2 more weeks of quarantine? How does that make any sense at all?”

. . .

The lawyer, who has been posting daily updates about life on the locked-down ship, tweeted that American health personnel had visited his room “until they learned, to their apparent surprise, that we had chosen to stay, at which point they moved on.”

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
7. Looks like he made the right decision. CNN reporting that 14 people on the evacuation
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:59 AM
Feb 2020

flight have now tested positive.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
17. Only people that tested negative were supposed to be evacuated
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:12 AM
Feb 2020

Then they were supposed to send the ones that tested positive to the local hospital. Many of the Americans that did not have the virus were concerned about being in closed quarters with those that could possibly have the virus but not test positive yet. They preferred to remain in their cabin until their 14 day quarantine was over.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
3. This is INSANE. They are guaranteeing everyone on board will eventually be infected.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:32 AM
Feb 2020

This is NOT the way to quarantine people. Holy crap. Those poor people.


Anyone who tests positive should be hospitalized. Anyone who tests negative should be evacuated to their home country, immediately.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
18. That guy doesn't "disagree" with me. He wants everyone on the ship tested. So do I.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 04:21 PM
Feb 2020

First. I'm shocked that everyone has not been test. That is insane. I said everyone who tests positive should to be hospitalized and everyone who tests negative should be immediately evacuated. That necessarily implies everyone must be tested. I can understand why he doesn't want to get on a plane with people who have been sitting in that petri dish of a ship and have not been tested to confirm they are negative for the virus. But I think he is overestimating the safety of his cabin. There is some indication that the virus can pass through pipes. Plus, he must interact with crew, who mingle amongst themselves without masks and aren't following quarantine rules. It is an insane situation on that ship.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
19. They are testing all. 70% of those testing positive show no symptoms.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 04:39 PM
Feb 2020
... Japanese public health experts advising the government defended the decision to isolate passengers and crew on the Diamond Princess.

“Many people are testing positive on the ship, but that is because we are testing everyone onboard, regardless of their medical condition,” said Shigeru Omi, the chief director of the Japan Community Health Care Organisation. “And 70% of those testing positive are not showing any symptoms at all.”...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/17/coronavirus-japan-braces-for-hundreds-more-cases-as-another-china-city-locked-down

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
6. On a better note, Macau will reopen on Thursday
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:01 AM
Feb 2020
BREAKING: Macau, the world's biggest casino hub, says casinos will reopen on Thursday after nearly 2 weeks with no new cases of coronavirus




Macau is just a massive city - I hope it's really true they have no new cases, because hey, that's cause for hope for the rest of the planet - they have, of course, a brazillion restaurants and hotels staffed by tons of workers (I was one of them, in my day!) - so they all just went two weeks without a paycheck

Go Macau!

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
10. Have you been following the coverage? No way it's true, unfortunately.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:38 AM
Feb 2020

I don't know what their endgame is, other than protect the economy at all costs. The numbers are predictably going down every day, yet they are keeping these draconian lockdowns in place. No way they would lock down 760 million people (10 percent of the world) over 1700 deaths. I realize you know all this, thanks for letting me vent.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
12. Hey girl - yeah, I'm leery of the numbers we're getting overall from poor ravaged China in general
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:56 AM
Feb 2020

(and Wuhan in particular) BUT, I haven't heard that Macao has suffered any major outbreaks? - which gives me that tad of "hope" - and, as you say, it could just be the need to keep the money flowing, no matter the cost...well...we shall see...

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
14. We can certainly hope, meanwhile the footage coming
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:05 AM
Feb 2020

out of Wuhan gets worse every single day, the content that slips by all the forms of censorship and then promptly gets removed, is horrifying when I have been able to catch it. Many brave citizens over there, trying their best to speak out and defend their fellow citizens. All of it is so damned heartbreaking.
I'm also beginning to wonder, if this isn't how they will handle us here. A lot of people already don't trust the numbers here, let alone the government.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
13. ...and I just came here to post the same thing.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:00 AM
Feb 2020

I guess we're the #CoronavirusCrewOnDU (hey, it rhymes!)

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