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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:25 AM Feb 2020

Classmate shines light on Bill Barr in HS: LOTS of fun facts about the Attorney Criminal




I made the article readable by splitting the image in two:




I think the comparison to Roy Cohn made by the author in the 29 year old piece is fascinating! Interesting read that exposes much of what you probably already suspected about Barr.
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Classmate shines light on Bill Barr in HS: LOTS of fun facts about the Attorney Criminal (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 OP
Begin Impeachment NOW! democratisphere Feb 2020 #1
Bill Barr is clearly a sociopath like Trump Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #3
So true and extremely dangerous for US. democratisphere Feb 2020 #6
Right now their interests run parallel Silver1 Feb 2020 #50
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #55
The article points out that the Democratic establishment partially enabled Barr. DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #82
Or yesterday, if possible! lastlib Feb 2020 #18
2 rotten peas in a pod. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #2
So true: the child is father to the man The Blue Flower Feb 2020 #4
trump, like a talented gangster recruiter, seems to have a real knack empedocles Feb 2020 #5
The insight that Barr's father was a corrupt pvt school admin is super-fascinating given... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #7
. . . how about a contemporary forensic psychologist/therapist empedocles Feb 2020 #62
Didn't a Kavanaugh come up through that same cesspool? Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #64
Why yes shanti Feb 2020 #86
Daddy Barr was also who hired and gave Jeffrey Epstein his first job.... Pachamama Feb 2020 #80
It takes one yellowwoodII Feb 2020 #29
Great read. llmart Feb 2020 #8
And he and Robert Mueller were best pals for years, till Bob sent him that "snitty" letter Leghorn21 Feb 2020 #9
Is there an Epstein angle? Some Kompromat of the Attorney Criminal? Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #11
Good possibility for Epstein connections. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #13
Lots more than Dems, that's for sure. Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #15
Dems fail the creative sex test NJCher Feb 2020 #31
Oh yeah! Almost forgot... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #35
Well, Barr's Father Did Hire Epstein To Teach At Dalton Me. Feb 2020 #77
Yeah I'm certain it's true PCIntern Feb 2020 #10
K&R. n/t Kitchari Feb 2020 #12
+1 keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #14
Wow, what a great find PatSeg Feb 2020 #16
Barr and Cohn went to the same high school, albeit in different classes Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #17
Sounds like a cheesy 1980s movie PatSeg Feb 2020 #28
Fascist Thug Assholes.... magicarpet Feb 2020 #49
Trump only hires the best people IronLionZion Feb 2020 #19
You nailed it. TryLogic Feb 2020 #51
I wish I could rec this a dozen times hangaleft Feb 2020 #20
At the heart of authoritarianism jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #21
Wow this was published 29 years ago, and Barr has only gotten worse FakeNoose Feb 2020 #22
He is shanti Feb 2020 #87
Jimmy Lohman jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #23
I like him too! Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #24
thanks for the info NJCher Feb 2020 #32
The POS is a conniving evil asshole who belongs in prison dalton99a Feb 2020 #25
At least 1100 DoJ professionals agree - I hope that has some bearing on his future... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #27
The Roy Cohn statement is what jumped out at me. Fascinating read. Fla Dem Feb 2020 #26
Regrettably, YES - when they "tell" you who they are .... believe them. MFGsunny Feb 2020 #30
Thank you! Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #36
Great read, Dennis. True Blue American Feb 2020 #56
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2020 #33
I didn't know Barr was in the CIA before this article Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #37
The Florida Flambeau was the Florida State University student newspaper csziggy Feb 2020 #34
Thanks for the links! Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #38
Gannett owns them now jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #43
FSU sold out a long time ago csziggy Feb 2020 #45
I covered FSU football jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #47
Yeah, the football cult surprised me when I got to Tallahassee csziggy Feb 2020 #48
Go CSU Rams TryLogic Feb 2020 #52
Royals, yes jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #54
If only someone had tried to warn us! gibraltar72 Feb 2020 #39
Simply horrifying details. BSdetect Feb 2020 #40
MUST READ malaise Feb 2020 #41
He is a fascist. And we don't say it enough. nt Hotler Feb 2020 #42
Barr tried to squash the BCCi scandal. Hotler Feb 2020 #44
+1. "Utter nonsense," Barr said. dalton99a Feb 2020 #46
I would love to see all of the Dem candidates go hard after Barr at the next debate. TryLogic Feb 2020 #53
I'm going to kick this everyday. nt Hotler Feb 2020 #57
Note that Biden is quoted here, praising Barr's candor and determination intheflow Feb 2020 #58
That's what caught my eye, too-Biden said Barr expressed with "refreshing candor" his view that the Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #60
The committee vote was unanimous mountain grammy Feb 2020 #75
"Look closer, white boys." SMC22307 Feb 2020 #81
A confirmation that trump's lawyer tiredtoo Feb 2020 #59
If the author of this article Nature Man Feb 2020 #61
What makes you say that? On the face of it, it's a very weird assertion about DU... Hekate Feb 2020 #65
J.H. Christ. Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #63
I found the author's comments about the Dem Senators disheartening to say the least... Hekate Feb 2020 #66
One of the Democrats "of that time" is now running for President... SMC22307 Feb 2020 #79
He's been wearing the same frames for shanti Feb 2020 #89
Wow, what an indictment! Nitram Feb 2020 #67
The childhood behavior reveals the man's destiny Generic Other Feb 2020 #68
A hidden treasure Mike 03 Feb 2020 #69
Makes me want to cry. mountain grammy Feb 2020 #70
Rachel Maddow... karin_sj Feb 2020 #71
Forward it to her on twitter shanti Feb 2020 #90
Wow! Karma13612 Feb 2020 #72
Whoa! Great read. Paladin Feb 2020 #73
It takes a long time for this much putrefaction to fester. klook Feb 2020 #74
Bunch of sociopathic sadists... cilla4progress Feb 2020 #76
Just another fat fuck bully that never had his clock cleaned Miigwech Feb 2020 #78
Great article. Let's also not forget that he supported pardons for Iran-Contra offenders. (eom) StevieM Feb 2020 #83
I've been waiting for this shanti Feb 2020 #84
My my, that was enlightening. Barr should never again work in Government. Baked Potato Feb 2020 #85
Thank you for posting that article. Brother Mythos Feb 2020 #88
Kick! burrowowl Feb 2020 #91
K&R and bookmarking for later. calimary Feb 2020 #92

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
3. Bill Barr is clearly a sociopath like Trump
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:40 AM
Feb 2020

Now I know why they became fast friends.

I can see this guy at Omega House with Doug Neidermeyer and Greg Marmalard.

Silver1

(721 posts)
50. Right now their interests run parallel
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020

but eventually they'll turn against one another. It's in the nature of the condition. I hope it's sooner than later.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
82. The article points out that the Democratic establishment partially enabled Barr.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:10 PM
Feb 2020

The article is quite edifying in two parallel zones of political life. The Democrats got wobbly, lost their spine, during/after Reagan.

I'm glad to see then coming back.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. trump, like a talented gangster recruiter, seems to have a real knack
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:41 AM
Feb 2020

for spotting deeply criminal personalities, to promote to key spots in his criminal empire.

Jarad's extreme loyalty to his criminal father comes to mind.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
7. The insight that Barr's father was a corrupt pvt school admin is super-fascinating given...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:51 AM
Feb 2020

...what we know about his hiring of a young Jeffrey Epstein to be on the faculty despite lack of a college degree.

There's a buttload of info in this piece that really should be revisited by a contemporary journalist.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
8. Great read.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 08:54 AM
Feb 2020

Of course he would be someone in The Dump's inner circle. That's the only sort of person who would be loyal to someone like the orange asswipe.

We've all seen through Barr's act of being upset with the dump's actions and tweets. He's perfected this act over the years and it's served him well.

He needs to be tossed to the curb, but it's going to be up to the Democrats to find a way to do that.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
9. And he and Robert Mueller were best pals for years, till Bob sent him that "snitty" letter
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:04 AM
Feb 2020

I don't comprende, but oh well what's new

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
11. Is there an Epstein angle? Some Kompromat of the Attorney Criminal?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:08 AM
Feb 2020

My spidey senses seem to be telling me that there's more to the Epstein-Barr (heh) connection than meets the eye.

Lonestarblue

(9,998 posts)
13. Good possibility for Epstein connections.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:23 AM
Feb 2020

How often do we read news stories about right-wing Republicans preaching about morals caught in child porn or sex trafficking?

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
31. Dems fail the creative sex test
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:45 AM
Feb 2020

When was the last time you heard of one dressing up like a baby, diapers and all.

PCIntern

(25,552 posts)
10. Yeah I'm certain it's true
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:07 AM
Feb 2020

I went to a hippie private school but there were a couple of fascist teachers and more than a few students just like Barr. I’d like a shot at my tormentors with the assistance of a tire iron perhaps. I had the fortune to be able to confront one once. The whole restaurant was apprised of what a prick he was.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
17. Barr and Cohn went to the same high school, albeit in different classes
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:54 AM
Feb 2020

...and Barr has a sibling named "Hilary".

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
21. At the heart of authoritarianism
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:13 AM
Feb 2020

And at the heart of today's Republican party is the simple belief that some people are inherently "better" and more deserving than other people. This memoir reveals a lot of details about what we already knew generally about Barr. That he's a bigot.

More apropos is that he embodies Trumpism, which is the Republican party's new ontological center.

So undemocratic and dangerous.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
22. Wow this was published 29 years ago, and Barr has only gotten worse
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:13 AM
Feb 2020

I wonder if this writer - Jimmy Lohman - is still around? It would be interesting to find out what he thinks of Bill Barr now, as opposed to 1991.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
23. Jimmy Lohman
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:23 AM
Feb 2020

Seems like an awesome guy.

A quick Google search tells me the author of the piece has moved to Austin. He posted this column on Feb. 12 on his facebook page, where he also has a photo of himself with Hillary Clinton as well as Jimmy competing in a Spinal Tap air guitar contest.

Here's a Youtube video of Jimmy on the guitar. He's posted several like it.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
32. thanks for the info
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:51 AM
Feb 2020

because as I read, I realized this person can write in a vivid, compelling way.

A couple of my favorite lines:

Billy "started developing a soft spot in his 'law and order' heart for white-collar criminals."

and

"I don't see what is so refreshingly candid about wearing a three-piece suit over a brown shirt."

Barr: Born to be a Villain.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
27. At least 1100 DoJ professionals agree - I hope that has some bearing on his future...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:29 AM
Feb 2020

...as in the days left before he resigns, or is carried out in cuffs.

Fla Dem

(23,677 posts)
26. The Roy Cohn statement is what jumped out at me. Fascinating read.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:29 AM
Feb 2020

Barr has been corrupt his whole life and had a corrupt father. Perhaps Trump is his father figure.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
30. Regrettably, YES - when they "tell" you who they are .... believe them.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:45 AM
Feb 2020

Much obliged for the post, DD, your contributions here = awesome!!

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
56. Great read, Dennis.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:28 PM
Feb 2020

Thank you for this.

Maybe he could write a song about corrupt Billy Barr like the Moscow Mitch song!

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
37. I didn't know Barr was in the CIA before this article
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:04 AM
Feb 2020

Maybe it was common knowledge? It might show why Poppy took a shining to him in '91 and made him AG. Poppy loved his CIA pals.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
34. The Florida Flambeau was the Florida State University student newspaper
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:00 AM
Feb 2020
https://fsu.digital.flvc.org/islandora/object/fsu:109142

The opinion piece posted in the OP is available there at: https://fsu.digital.flvc.org/islandora/object/fsu%3A467664#page/Page+4/mode/2up


Apparently around 1996, Gannet acquired it and they changed the name to the FSView. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSView_%26_Florida_Flambeau

I haven't read the Flambeau since I graduated from FSU in 1977.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
43. Gannett owns them now
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:19 AM
Feb 2020

Unfortunately, Gannett purchased the Flambeau and the FSView in 2006 as part of their for-profit portfolio.

I hope they still do good work, but Gannett has a way of sucking resources out of all its properties.

Gannett tried to purchase the Rocky Mountain Collegian at Colorado State University in 2008, but my students fought it, and we successfully turned the Collegian and its related media — CTV, KCSU and College Avenue magazine — into a non-profit corporation that would guarantee the students' right to choose content, which is the Independent Florida Alligator model. (Full disclosure: I'm a UF graduate. Go Gators.)

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
45. FSU sold out a long time ago
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:28 AM
Feb 2020

AS part of their "Football is KING" philosophy. That's why I will never donate to the FSU Foundation - instead I donate to the individual schools, such as Information Technology (used to be Library Science) or Social Sciences. Since my two majors were in Library Science and Anthropology, I want to support them.

I was at FSU when the Seminoles lost over 20 games in a row and was involved in the petition to remove football from their sport lineup. Unfortunately, Bobby Bowden managed to turn them around and they won consistently for the rest of the time I was there. I only keep track of the games so I can avoid going near town on home game days.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
47. I covered FSU football
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:33 AM
Feb 2020

It was part of my job at the Gainesville Sun to keep an eye on the "enemy," so to speak.

And you're right about college football and its bizarre hold on major universities. This is not the forum for such a conversation, but unless and until football simply fades away, my belief is that all major college football should be turned into a professional minor league operation that still plays its games at campus stadiums but that is entirely made up of "professional football apprentices," players who have no obligation to go to school but would receive a stipend to do so when their football career ends. It's complicated, but it could be done.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
48. Yeah, the football cult surprised me when I got to Tallahassee
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:40 AM
Feb 2020

I'd started at a small private college (Florida Presbyterian, now Eckerd College) and transferred up here in January 1972. I'd drive out to a horse stable out in the National Forest to ride. Fall quarter (remember the quarter system?) I went out to ride, but when I got back into town, I couldn't get back to campus. All the roads were re-directed or blocked off and that was my first quarter of driving in Tallahassee so I had a hard time finding my way.

When I got back to the dorm, I asked a friend what was going on and she said, "Oh, it's just the first game of the season." I asked what game and she explained about football. Until then I hadn't even known FSU had a team! Fla Pres's big claim to fame was their sailing and their bridge team (now they have a basketball team). If I'd known how much FSU valued football over academics I probably would not have come here.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
54. Royals, yes
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020

I was a KU fan when I taught there, but as a Nebraska grad (the only Power Six conference school never to win an NCAA Tournament basketball game), I'm a little tired of KU's success and the entitled attitude of its fans. Nothing personal, I'm just jealous.

I taught at CSU for 10 years but was ousted by the president after "FUCK BUSH" in 2007-08, so I have bittersweet memories of that place. I also taught at CU Boulder and just retired from the state in 2017 after 27 years. I'm at the University of Iowa now.

dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
46. +1. "Utter nonsense," Barr said.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 11:32 AM
Feb 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/10/24/ex-white-house-official-hired-by-bcci-figure/5c698967-8bc5-4492-a230-6256878366b4/

EX-WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL HIRED BY BCCI FIGURE
By Ann Devroy and Sharon Walsh
October 24, 1991

...

But Sununu last night denied he oversaw any group monitoring BCCI probes, and acting Attorney General William P. Barr denied Sununu or anyone at the White House tried to influence their probes. "The notion that anyone at the White House has attempted to influence BCCI investigations is utter nonsense," Barr said.

Robert S. Mueller, the assistant attorney general who oversees the BCCI probes, also issued a statement last night denying Sununu tried to exert influence. He said Sununu has had "no communications" with anyone at the Justice Department on BCCI matters.

Adham, a Middle Eastern businessman with ties to the Saudi royal family, is one of six shareholders of First American Bank's parent company who federal regulators say acted as fronts for BCCI. Adham, through Washington lawyer Plato Cacheris, has denied that and has said he owns about 13 percent of the shares of First American.

In July, the Fed sought a record $200 million fine against BCCI after finding that it secretly owned First American Bankshares. It also sought at that time to permanently bar Adham and other First American shareholders from any U.S. banking activity. Adham also is said to be one of BCCI's biggest debtors, with hundreds of millions of dollars in delinquent loans from the bank.

=======================================

Déjà vu.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
53. I would love to see all of the Dem candidates go hard after Barr at the next debate.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:03 PM
Feb 2020

And I think they should.

intheflow

(28,476 posts)
58. Note that Biden is quoted here, praising Barr's candor and determination
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:53 PM
Feb 2020

to overturn Roe v. Wade. Without those kinds of warm, public endorsements then, we wouldn't have Barr actively shredding the Constitution now.

But tell me again how Biden's centrist policies will be good for the country.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
60. That's what caught my eye, too-Biden said Barr expressed with "refreshing candor" his view that the
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:19 PM
Feb 2020

constitution does not provide a right to abortion.
Folks...Biden has no business being in this race. People think he's "safe" to beat trump. He. Is. Not. Trump is going to walk all over him if he gets the nomination. The republicans will crucify Biden.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
81. "Look closer, white boys."
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:19 PM
Feb 2020

That piece was brutal. Biden's centrist policies are not good for the country and should he win the nomination, Trump and the Republicans will chew him up and spit him out.

Hekate

(90,705 posts)
65. What makes you say that? On the face of it, it's a very weird assertion about DU...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:21 PM
Feb 2020

The author is giving us personal insight into Barr's personality, history, and behavior. Barr is now "Trump's Roy Cohn," and apparently proud to be so. He's a bully and a fascist and a sociopath.

What in this piece from 1991 strikes you as alertable at DU today?

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
63. J.H. Christ.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020

Barr never stopped being who he was. And the writer is spot on about the Democrats of that time.

I hope and pray that the Democratic leaders of today have seen the errors of the past, and will move to remedy them. I hope and pray that Barr will fall heavy and hard when he gets impeached.

Hekate

(90,705 posts)
66. I found the author's comments about the Dem Senators disheartening to say the least...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:24 PM
Feb 2020

Just ask Uncle Clarence.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
79. One of the Democrats "of that time" is now running for President...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020

and I'm not convinced -- at all -- he's seen the errors of the past. Sadly. That piece was brutal, on many different levels.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
89. He's been wearing the same frames for
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:13 AM
Feb 2020

over 30 years. He is nothing, if not, consistent. He is on a religious mission.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
68. The childhood behavior reveals the man's destiny
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020

The Greek's always looked at the hero or villain's childhood to see what the future might hold.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
70. Makes me want to cry.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:00 PM
Feb 2020

In fact I think I will. So many missed opportunities with Democrats. Sometimes I wonder......

karin_sj

(810 posts)
71. Rachel Maddow...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 05:02 PM
Feb 2020

... really needs to devote most of next show with this information. This needs to be spread far and wide. OVER DECADES, he's gotten away with so much illegal, immoral, and dangerous shit that has really hurt our country. And he's doing the very worst imaginable right now in front of our eyes.

klook

(12,155 posts)
74. It takes a long time for this much putrefaction to fester.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:10 PM
Feb 2020

Barr, like Trump, has been heading for this moment his whole life.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
88. Thank you for posting that article.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:10 AM
Feb 2020

For some time now, I've been wondering how Barr became Barr. That article sheds some much needed light on the process.

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