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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:06 AM Feb 2020

'Black Patriots' Were Heroes Of The Revolution -- But Not The History Books


February 16, 20205:19 PM ET
Heard on All Things Considered

A new documentary, Black Patriots: Heroes of the Revolution, introduces us to heroes of the American Revolution who aren't typically found in history books. They are a writer, a double agent, a martyr and a soldier — and they are all black.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the executive producer. He is a Hall of Fame basketball player, writer, activist, and in 2016 the recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Abdul-Jabbar says he was born and raised in New York City, in "the last part of Manhattan that George Washington controlled before he had to leave and escape and go to Valley Forge," he says. "You know, I read about that incident in my history books, and I was surprised to find out that it happened in in my neighborhood. So after that, you know. My experiences as a child, we often would find like musket balls and arrowheads in the parks. Right there in northern Manhattan. And you know, I felt a real connection to the history of that area."


On why we don't know these stories

Well, we don't know the stories already because people who write history books, or who have written most of the history books have focused on what European Americans thought, and what their objectives were, and what they did to make those objectives become real. And anybody who was not European was not seen as being worth depicting, because their stake in it seemed to be non-existent. This nation was founded by white people, for white people. At the time, blacks were not allowed citizenship. Women were not allowed to vote. Native Americans were not allowed citizenship. That's the way it was back in those days.

https://www.npr.org/2020/02/16/806006560/black-patriots-were-heroes-of-the-revolution-but-not-the-history-books?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
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'Black Patriots' Were Heroes Of The Revolution -- But Not The History Books (Original Post) BeckyDem Feb 2020 OP
I wonder the documentary gladium et scutum Feb 2020 #1
As a young person I remember reading about that Dan Feb 2020 #12
Lets see gladium et scutum Feb 2020 #13
Smiling, Dan Feb 2020 #14
got it n/t gladium et scutum Feb 2020 #18
American history has been largely white washed... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #2
+1 BeckyDem Feb 2020 #5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is among the most thoughtful human beings malaise Feb 2020 #3
His personal journey in life is more interesting than the basketball aspect, imo. BeckyDem Feb 2020 #4
Maybe it's just me, but it seems Black Evangelicals are awakening... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #6
I agree with you in the sense that Americans of all stripes are adamant they see discrimination BeckyDem Feb 2020 #7
Great post malaise Feb 2020 #8
Thoughtful and eye-opening. Thanks for the link. nt crickets Feb 2020 #11
You're very welcome! BeckyDem Feb 2020 #15
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #9
K&R for visibility. crickets Feb 2020 #10
Very interesting, thanks for the post. appalachiablue Feb 2020 #16
+1 Perfect addition, thanks! BeckyDem Feb 2020 #17

gladium et scutum

(806 posts)
1. I wonder the documentary
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

makes any mention of the 20,000 blacks that served with the British Army during the Revolution. These people were granted freedom from servitude, by Lord Dunmore and General Clinton, for service to his Royal Majesty in putting down the rebellion.

Dan

(3,563 posts)
12. As a young person I remember reading about that
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:52 PM
Feb 2020

(Over fifty years ago) and at that time, I thought that any AA that fought with the long knives was definitely on the wrong side.

Fifty plus years later, I have not changed my position on that.

gladium et scutum

(806 posts)
13. Lets see
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 06:42 AM
Feb 2020

I a slave on a tobacco farm in Virginia or a rice plantation in South Carolina. Born a slave, will be a slave until I die. Lord Dunmore and General Clinton offer me my freedom, if I will join their army. That looks like a pretty good deal to me. I might have a chance to live the rest of my life as a freeman instead of a slave. From what I have read close to 20,000 AAs took Dunmore and Clinton up on their offer. Only about 5,000 AAs served the Colonial cause.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
2. American history has been largely white washed...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020

Love these stories. Blacks have served and fought in all of America's wars, and generally have done well when given the chance. With training and the proper equipment, they have always done as well as or better than equivalent all white units. Glory was a reasonably accurate rendition of the story of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry, a black regiment in the Civil War.

malaise

(269,014 posts)
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is among the most thoughtful human beings
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 12:41 PM
Feb 2020

of his entire generation - I love him big time. Today's basketball players could learn a lot from him.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
4. His personal journey in life is more interesting than the basketball aspect, imo.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:05 PM
Feb 2020


Much of my early awakening came from reading “The Autobiography of Malcolm X” as a freshman. I was riveted by Malcolm’s story of how he came to realize that he was the victim of institutional racism that had imprisoned him long before he landed in an actual prison. That’s exactly how I felt: imprisoned by an image of who I was supposed to be. The first thing he did was push aside the Baptist religion that his parents had brought him up in and study Islam. To him, Christianity was a foundation of the white culture responsible for enslaving blacks and supporting the racism that permeated society. His family was attacked by the Christianity-spouting Ku Klux Klan, and his home was burned by the KKK splinter group the Black Legion.

Malcolm X’s transformation from petty criminal to political leader inspired me to look more closely at my upbringing and forced me to think more deeply about my identity. Islam helped him find his true self and gave him the strength not only to face hostility from both blacks and whites but also to fight for social justice. I began to study the Quran.

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/3/why-i-converted-to-islam.html

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
6. Maybe it's just me, but it seems Black Evangelicals are awakening...
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 01:47 PM
Feb 2020

to the reality of how their religion has not necessarily been their friend over the last century or so.

I know that not long ago, gay bashing and discrimination was pretty common in the black community, and it always seemed strange to me that anybody who is being repressed would not feel a kinship with other communities in similar situations. Same with Hispanics of the various flavors from Mexico, Caribbean and Central American origins.

It is reflective of the conservative divide and conquer methods that get people hating each other over fairly meaningless things and generally over nothing. I'm seeing a lot more cooperation between the various ethnic and social groups these days and I'm all for it.

I'm an irreligious sort, but from the outside looking in, I think I'm seeing more Christians acting like Christians on the left of the political spectrum, in opposition to the authoritarian, Supply Side Jesus thinking of the right.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
7. I agree with you in the sense that Americans of all stripes are adamant they see discrimination
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:08 PM
Feb 2020

as hateful and it is more hopeful for us than not. That said, the public figures who continue to secure institutional racism, project violence in their rhetoric are still present and must be derailed. The Evangelicals meeting that end are still dangerous.

malaise

(269,014 posts)
8. Great post
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 02:17 PM
Feb 2020

Sadly too many young people today don't read let alone think about what they read and their own lives.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. K&R
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020

Looks interesting! I have only seen one film - "Glory" - about the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, the Union Army's second African-American regiment in the US Civil War, but nothing about the Revolutionary War.

appalachiablue

(41,138 posts)
16. Very interesting, thanks for the post.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 09:41 AM
Feb 2020



- Crispus Attucks (c.1723 – March 5, 1770) was an American stevedore of African and Native American descent, widely regarded as the first person killed in the Boston Massacre and thus the first American killed in the American Revolution. Historians disagree on whether he was a free man or an escaped slave, but most agree that he was of Natick (or possibly Wampanoag) and African descent.

Two major sources of eyewitness testimony about the Boston Massacre published in 1770 did not refer to him as "black" nor as a "Negro"; it appears that Bostonians viewed him as being of mixed ethnicity. According to a contemporaneous account in the Pennsylvania Gazette, he was a "Mulattoe man, named Crispus Attucks, who was born in Framingham, but lately belonged to New-Providence, and was here in order to go for North Carolina."

Attucks became an icon of the anti-slavery movement in the mid-19th century. Supporters of the abolition movement lauded him for playing a heroic role in the history of the United States...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispus_Attucks

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