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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVox interview: why liberals are bad at politics
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2020/2/18/21112012/liberals-conservatives-american-politics-eitan-hershFor me, politics is about working with other people to influence the government. And you can influence the government by convincing people who they should vote for, or by interacting with politicians and lobbying them; in either case, you are getting these other people, whether theyre politicians or citizens, to take some action they wouldnt otherwise take.
The reality is that the people who spend the most time consuming news and arguing online are disproportionately college-educated white people, and right now that demographic is predominantly Democratic. This isnt to say that this sort of behavior doesnt happen on both sides, but its mostly on the left.
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When youre a hobbyist, youre learning the wrong information and practicing the wrong skills. You are typically learning about big national news items, and oftentimes its just drama. So a hobbyist might learn all the details of the Mueller report and feel thats important to know and will spend hours and hours on it.
But then if you asked him how he could get involved on some issues of importance in his local community or in his state, or where the pressure points are in his community to influence government, he has no idea. Hes just caught up in the national news cycle and hes not actually improving anything.
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Vox interview: why liberals are bad at politics (Original Post)
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Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)1. Is this analysis serious, or is the author on drugs?
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(56,582 posts)2. Absolutely serious and dead-on accurate (nt)
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)3. So you believe in the premise
that liberals don't know what's going on in the local community because we have the nerve to follow national/world news? Perhaps he'd like to explain how we flipped Virginia blue, then? Can't wait to hear that shit.
He might have some good points, but this author is taking some Grand Canyon-sized leaps in his reasoning.
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)4. Next time I'm stuck in a patients room with Fox News blasting
Making me die a little inside Ill remember how some people think liberals are doing politics wrong.
No one is spending more time learning facts and consuming news than college-educated white men. But research on real engagement volunteering for groups and campaigns shows its overwhelmingly women and disproportionately blacks and Latinos who are doing the real work of politics. Comfort with the status quo among college-educated whites, especially men, seems like the most likely explanation.
As to why this is more of a liberal problem than a conservative one, right now the white college-educated population is much more Democratic than Republican. Of course, theres plenty of hobbyism on both sides, but right now this group tends to lean Democratic
As to why this is more of a liberal problem than a conservative one, right now the white college-educated population is much more Democratic than Republican. Of course, theres plenty of hobbyism on both sides, but right now this group tends to lean Democratic
This article is an interview about a book someone is trying to sell. While I dont actually discount the premise, theres a couple of things worth noting. One, is, its a changing world on how we communicate because of on-line activism. Two, I dont think this behavior is limited to liberals.
I regularly see posts lamenting the Influences of Facebook or Twitter, here, but both social media platform enjoy widespread use for political peddling.
I dont know why its so hard to admit that there are millions of people who people LIKE Trump, enjoy what hes doing. Want him to do more of it. This is not the fault of liberals who may or may not be arm chair warriors
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)5. Yeah,
I heard this guy on some recent podcast. Its his theory, and I listened a bit. He correct about being nice to each other, the rest blah.