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(18,770 posts)lark
(23,155 posts)Hit Stone with the max penalty recommended by the real lawyers, not the phony Russian Repug version!!!
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Please
still_one
(92,394 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)still_one
(92,394 posts)still_one
(92,394 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)Dennis Donovan
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I suspect they want him to get the full recommended sentence just so it gets Barr off the hook for interfering with it to begin with. They also know he'll be pardoned moments after sentencing.
Mark my words.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)Tweets show up here, but when I click on the link, it just gives me the bird and "something went wrong", over and over.
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)Recc'ing enhancements for Stone's corrupt threats
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)He thought he could corrupt justice... what a silly stupid twerp
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)They know Stone will be pardoned, so they want her to give 9 yrs just so it looks like Barr's interference wasn't a factor.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)Curious if it's all an act or if these prosecutors have integrity. I'm hoping for integrity. But know very well Trump and Barr will do the most heinous corrupt things in their own self-interest.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)...so my hope is that blood still runs thicker than water with some of the career DOJ prosecutors.
hlthe2b
(102,358 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)I think Trump wears out people quickly. Barr might have reached his limit. My guess is that many of the pardons issued probably have hurt their relationship.
Barr might have said go forward with the Stone prison sentence. Let dumb fuck continue to show his true colors with a pardon.
BigOleDummy
(2,272 posts)... I have to agree with you. My faith in the Justice Department is waning by the day I'm afraid. I WANT to believe they are recommending enhancements by the weight of the evidence and the Law but am afraid its just a show. There's no way our chump in chief will let this or any other sentence stand.
hlthe2b
(102,358 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Can't wait - I want ten years minimum and that's jsut for threatening the judge
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)IADEMO2004
(5,559 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)King Donald will pardon this slimy ass.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)With misinformation and redirection. I swear, I might have to join twitter just for instances like this.
joost5
(421 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)Del Quentin Wilber
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Judge: Stone "lied and sought to impede production of information not to some secret anti-Trump cabal but to Congress," when both houses were controlled by REPUBLICANS.
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Del Quentin Wilber
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Judge is speaking very very fast. She is STILL going through extensive record that led to Stone's conviction on ALL counts before a jury.
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Del Quentin Wilber
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She says Stone "flat out lied" about his contacts with Corsi and Credico. There were hundreds of emails to and from Credico alone, she notes.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Andrew Prokop
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BUT: ABJ says, she is concerned that 7-9 years is greater than necessary. And would have thought so regardless of the sentencing memo chaos.
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riversedge
(70,299 posts)ABJ notes that Stone doesnt seem particularly infirm or in ill health because he has often been traveling to many different places.
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Tami Burages
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She's going to sentence him to be Randy's butler, isn't she?
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Judge Jackson: He was not prosecuted, as some have claimed, for standing up for the president. He was prosecuted for covering up for the president.
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TrumpsTaxes
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We have our quote of the day..
Dan M.
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What a line
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Andrew Prokop
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ABJ calls Trumps comments on the case entirely inappropriate, she will not be influenced by them. But she will not hold them against Stone either.
Also says she will not be influenced by pressure from the left from those who want a stiffer sentence.
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riversedge
(70,299 posts)ABJ: The truth still exists. The truth still matters. Roger Stones insistence that it doesnt poses a threat to our most fundamental institutions, to the very foundation of our democracy.
The dismay and disgust at the defendants belligerence should transcend party.
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joost5
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The dismay and disgust at the defendants belligerence should transcend party.
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(70,299 posts)Del Quentin Wilber
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Stone will not be going to prison today. The judge deferred the start of his sentence until she rules on defense efforts to toss trial. If their objections have to do with jurors, it likely won't fly. She spoke highly of jurors service.
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Del Quentin Wilber
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That works out to 3 years and four months in prison. He also sentenced to two years of supervised release upon leaving prison.
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Del Quentin Wilber
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That came on Count 1. He got concurrent sentences of 18 months on counts 2-6 and count 7.
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Del Quentin Wilber
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BREAKING --> Roger Stone, political operative and longtime confidant of President Trump, is sentenced to 40 months in prison by a federal judge who was particularly harsh about his lies to Congress, witness tampering, obstruction.