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by joelgp
As you know, the DNC put on one of the best political conventions of all time by most fair-minded observers. However, Politico has gone completely crazier than a sprayed roach with a sustained volume, repetitiveness and passion that is quite remarkable.
Think Im exaggerating?
Last night, I moseyed on over to their front page and I found 17 stories that slams all-things democrat on their front page...people!!! So I listed just the titles of each article with my snark in parenthesis to prove my point.
1. Obama fell flat (What? Wheres the some say or the trusty ole question mark?????)
2. Tampa mayor: Crist an 'opportunist' ( I guest Artur Davis is a hero)
3. Reality bites: Jobs report kills DNC buzz (I still have my buzz)
4. Rush: Obama channeled Carter (Can we find a quote from Vann Jones)
5. Obama draws fewer viewers than '08 ( he sure did by 3+ million but he drew 6-million more than Romneyreport people report)
6. Mitt: Speeches aren't laundry lists (Huh, frogs aint cars more crap)
7. Downsizing the dream (Make up your mind, we either had a DNC buzz or were downsized but not both
8. Analysts say Obama came up short (How did you evolve from this to Obama fell short? I guess this version didnt get enough tea party hits)
9. Many are saying he gave a dispassionate speech. ( Many of the Politico Editorial Board that just fired their only black reporter??)
10. TV pundits split on Obama speech ( How many times is too many to write the same story?)
11. Celebs spotted at the DNC ( Oh noes, did someone arrest them?)
12. Report: Secret Service investigating DNC delegate (Why? Did she threaten to kill Akin like Karl Rove did or just throw peanuts on some black people?)
13. What Obama said vs. what he meant (It truly takes talent for Politico to peer in someones brain and see their heart. Listen, as youre reading this, I know what youre wearing, thinking and how you really feeleven if you dont utter a word because I got skills baby.)
14. Sidelined: TARP, stimulus, climate (Um, Clinton talked about Bidens management of the Stimulus and Obama addressed climate change himself. Why talk about Bushs TARP program at a DNC convention? Thats politically stupid!)
15. What was missing in Obama's speech (dancing girls with USA pom-poms)
16. Obama all but ignores 'Obamacare' (Wow for three full days, nearly every speech dealt with Obamacaredid you really want Obama to repeat everything they said? Wow?)
17. Plouffe not expecting bounce (This one is my favorite because while Plouffe is not expecting one, Gallup already found one!!)
And guess who didnt yet report that bounce which was posted on nearly every political site by 2:00pm yesterday?
You got it!!!
Politico!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/08/1129264/-Politico-in-All-out-MELTDOWN-Over-DNC-Convention
Politico and the entire media are having a meltdown. Add to that the fact that things didn't go well for Mitt yesterday.
Mitt laid low waiting for the jobs report so he could pounce with his lies. He started the day spewing cheap talking points about jobs and touting numbers unsubstantiated by anything he has offered in the way of policy. Actually, his policies are a secret.
Mitt ends the day on the defensive about omitting any reference to the troops serving in harms way in Afghanistan. Mitt said he did so because thanking the troops was not one of the "important" items on the "laundry list" of things he needed to mention in his speech.
Mitt, get off the stage!
Updated to add:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/09/07/807281/morning-briefing-9-weeks/
Note:
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...they fell asleep before the convention and then just plagiarized FOX.
Sour grapes. I'm surprised they didn't mention his tie.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Too busy talking about Michelle's dress.
Could you imagine ...if someone (anyone) had grown a beard?
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)I hope he got smacked at some point.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)some of the most horrendous GOP lies. Kristina vanden Heuvel tried, but it's easy to get shouted down, or overtalked on Maher's show if you're not a rude person.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)When the right wing shills come face-to-face with their own bs, all they can do is say the other side does it, too.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)gee... i get to use that reply title again!
in the grand scheme of things...politico is just another collection of opinions that carries no more weight than any other site
madokie
(51,076 posts)I don't trust them for a minute. Gannon gone and politico arrives. If the truth was known I'd bet some of the same assholes were with talon and now politico
kcass1954
(1,819 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)mcctatas
(13,755 posts)Apparently his internship with Herb Kohl didn't teach him anything about integrity, he's just a pro at sucking up.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)This time around, fewer people are in doubt about who to vote for.
rocktvity
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Watched C-span along with a lot of people.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...ad nauseum...over the actual convention events and speakers. Who wants to watch their spin for six hours a day?
zeemike
(18,998 posts)The TV I have just sits there unless I want to watch a DVD....otherwise i can get all I want with my computing machine.
mnhtnbb
(31,401 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Started watching via MSNBC and was quickly frustrated with the jabber obstructing the speakers. C-span was a blessing, and it's so nice on a large screen. While I DO get alot of my news and politics online, the crappy internet service we have out here in trhe sticks can really piss me off as something I'm into stops repeatedly to "buffer". Heck, I'd dump Direct TV in a hearbeat if we had a solid reliable internet connection. But at least for the convention - DTV and C-span made it fun to watch.
Peregrine Took
(7,416 posts)Seems to be coming increasingly right wing.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Albriton---->Riggs---> Riggs Bank Scandal....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riggs_Bank
http://www.muckety.com/Politico/5003676.muckety. Just expand some of the names, Google around. Explains everything.
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Rotten roots.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)Garion_55
(1,915 posts)Maher was slapping his stupid 'both sides are guilty of X' down.
i didnt realize how in the tank they were for the gop till recently.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)I think the media is in shock and can't admit that the Dems took the fight the repugs and put the boots to em.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I've had people tell me that Politico doesn't have a Right Wing bent, those people are full of shit too.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I remember when they first popped up and tried to disguise themselves as middle-of-the-road but once you start tracing the money, the sources, the owners - well, there is nothing objective or moderate about them.
Over the years, their mask slipped off a few times and one could easily see who they really are and who they represent.
I noticed after the DNC Conventions, on C-SPAN - the Politico panel came off as a bunch of brown haired, frothing, full blown right-wingers but lacking the theater finesse (for lack of a better phrase) of Fox News.
still_one
(92,353 posts)Squinch
(50,990 posts)FBaggins
(26,756 posts)It was in no sense "one of the best political conventions of all time"...
... The difference is that Politico pretends to be a news organization, while the author of this piece does not, and doesn't pretend to be unbiased.
...that's your opinion. Many people, including those who have been underrepresented in the platform for decades, believe it was.
I believe it was "one of the best."
FBaggins
(26,756 posts)There are other democrats (teachers and other some other unions) who don't seem as pleased.
But that hardly matters. "Best of all time" would necessarily include a dramatic impact on the race (especially since the RNC convention was such a dud)... Would avoid the moderately embarrassing screw-ups (god/israel vote and the venue handling)... and would have the kind of call to action final address that marked one of the great presidencies.
The convention was fine... and there's every reason to believe that we can win in November. But "one of the best of all time" has to come from a author who is attending his first (especially since 2008 was far better).
There are other democrats (teachers and other some other unions) who don't seem as pleased.
But that hardly matters. "Best of all time" would necessarily include a dramatic impact on the race (especially since the RNC convention was such a dud)... Would avoid the moderately embarrassing screw-ups (god/israel vote and the venue handling)... and would have the kind of call to action final address that marked one of the great presidencies.
The convention was fine... and there's every reason to believe that we can win in November. But "one of the best of all time" has to come from a author who is attending his first (especially since 2008 was far better).
...you're basing this on some people who weren't "pleased"? Do you think that's unique for this convention?
It was one of the fucking best of all time. It may have been the best. You don't have to agree, but don't pretend your opinion and subjective assertions are superior to other people's. I mean, let's weigh "underrepresented" now included in an inclusive convention to some people weren't "pleased."
Absurd!
FBaggins
(26,756 posts)No... the premise of your reply was that many who used to be poorly represented in the platform were happy with the improvements. I merely pointed out that by that standard it was less than an unmitigated success (you did read the posts here regarding the ridiculous distregard of the clear majority on those last two platform changes... didn't you??). There are large numbers of people who used to play key roles in our conventions (union members... especially teachers) who have become disillusioned and were not brought back into the fold.
It was one of the fucking best of all time. It may have been the best.
Repeating it (and increasing the claim) doesn't make it any more true. It was in no sense one of the greatest. It wasn't a failure... but it wasn't any better than average. I repeat... the only person who could ever call it the best... must be too young to remember any others.
but don't pretend your opinion and subjective assertions are superior to other people's.
I didn't give a subjective opinion. I replied to one. I gave facts. The coverage and viewership were lackluster... gaffs were too plentiful... ammunition was given to the other side without cost... it lacked a unifying theme that could provide coattails to democrats in congress... and an RNC convention that earned almost no bounce at all and left us an opening - was not demolished as it should have been.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)I'm sure there were african americans speaking at the RNC convention. Does that prove they're happy?
Take a look at the Education group here on DU or any number of posts by teachers union members.
"I'm sure there were african americans speaking at the RNC convention. Does that prove they're happy"
The mindless idiots who were there probably thought they'd died and gone to heaven.
You appear to be confusing the belief that the convention was one of the best and a tremendous succes with happiness in life.
Someone taking issue with a policy has nothing to do with whether or not the convention was one of the best.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)than the convention. I thought the convention itself was pretty good. Loved most of the speeches. Clinton was awesome. But the party's platform on education sucks eggs. Of course I don't think any of us teachers expected a sudden turnaround from the DNC.
But I can still appreciate a good show put on by Democrats.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)but don't pretend your opinion and subjective assertions are superior to other people's.
I didn't give a subjective opinion. I replied to one. I gave facts. The coverage and viewership were lackluster... gaffs were too plentiful... ammunition was given to the other side without cost... it lacked a unifying theme that could provide coattails to democrats in congress... and an RNC convention that earned almost no bounce at all and left us an opening - was not demolished as it should have been.
Are you that full of yourself? I mean, you've gone from implying that your opinion is fact to asserting that anyone who doesn't believe it's a fact is "too young." Have you been looking Putin in the eyes?
And then emphatically stating that your opinions are "facts."
Too funny.
BelieveMe3
(134 posts)Real Time. He didn't say a whole lot. He did get a dig in about Dems talking too much about "abortion and gays" at their convention other than Clinton who did not. Here's what alot of republicans are not getting-they don't own foreign policy, the military or social issues anymore. The only thing they have going for them is their twisted argument on the economy..that's it. And they know it on some level which is why Ann Romney didn't want to talk social issues. However, some of them still think those wedge issues work when in fact I think it shows them to be out of touch with alot of the country who aren't rabid ring wingers.
BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I knew this from the very get-go when Chris Matthews was using them as a news source way back when Keith Olbermann just began to push progressive reporting into his show.
Politico was somewhat neutral in the beginning (as most new media tend to be), but when the founder and the funders are Reaganites and CONservatives, I knew it was only a matter of time before they did their trusty ol' bait 'n' switch and allow their (always-wrong)Rightwing ideology to take precedent in the majority of the articles.
I never took Politico seriously.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Progressive dog
(6,917 posts)You can get away with a lot of spin sometimes, but not when anyone who cares can still watch the DNC speeches online. These hacks are still in the TV age when they could limit access to the event and get away with this. The only people who will believe this crap are the ones who need no evidence.
reACTIONary
(5,771 posts)elbloggoZY27
(283 posts)Here is my take on the GOP and their enablers.
It's called INTOLERANCE. It beats out that infamous ugliness that still is perversive in our lovely divided Melting Pot Country.
It's a shameful and ugly side of our society and is perpetuated by people who want nothing more then having us believe in their form of everything.
Where I work we have had diversity training classes but that ugly word INTOLERANCE is still lurking about.
I hear it at work from men, women and it really bad when people who would be hurt by a Republican Administration vote for these folks.
So my advice is we may not agree on a lot of issues but this form of Democracy is pretty unique so lets invest in the word TOLERANT, Tolerant of other citizens views.
PS I am a Navy Vietnam Veteran.
liberal from boston
(856 posts)Also saw Bill Maher last night & also surprised that Politico's Jim Vanderschmuck was echoing the GOP talking points about DNC Convention. Steve Schmidt was also on & he acknowledged that the Democrats have taken Foreign Policy issue away from Republicans. Bill Maher also had on Christine O'Donnell & it was evident how frustrated he was with her lies. Bill called out her lies but she kept on talking. Thanks for the info on Politico as I knew very little about them!!!i
Dustin DeWinde
(193 posts)No wonder some folks call politics the online newsletter of the Romney campaign
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:17 PM - Edit history (1)
from their beginning back in 04/05 I never trusted them. We are seeing their betrayal now.
Demit
(11,238 posts)my memory is a little fuzzy, but yes, they came to DU acting all progressive and liberal while sticking it to Move-on
and Truth-out. I remember that debate here.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)and he was similarly pukey, RNC defender - DNC party pooper. He's a gloomy Gus
I was going to point this out
underpants
(182,865 posts)He is so inside the echo-chamber (conduit for the Drudge report) that he didn't know what to say to even the slightest disruption in the talking points he is paid to repeat.
Spazito
(50,429 posts)Talon News. It has been a repub propaganda vehicle since it's inception, the only difference is they sometimes used more subtlety than did Talon News and it seemingly worked when it came to the MSM using them as a credible source.
They have thrown off any use of subtlety and are now going on a full bore attack on the President and Democrats, their bias, once somewhat under cover, is now out for ALL to see.
what they did back in the day was to discredit Move-on and Truth-out to become the most trusted, I actually warned
people back then on DU that they can't be trusted especially with the way they back stab Move-on and Truth-out.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)that was known to have signed into the White House one day during the * admin and didn't sign out til several weeks later?
Spazito
(50,429 posts)as big a slimeball as one could imagine. After the facts about him became public, Talon News shut down, it was in February, 2005. Politico was started in January, 2007 and is owned by Allbritton Communications which is, in turn, owned and run by Robert Allbritton, a right wing republican.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)after the speeches at the DNC Convention, and she had on a GOP hack who said that E. Warren was a very angry wo-men and I just had to chuckle. Seriously, really?
CNN's main coverage was the omitting of "GOD" and "Jerusalem", hearing Wolf state this was a major issue that will hinder the DNC Convention forever! The only positives about the convention seem to comes from MSNBC and Current.
Most the the people's media is actually the corporate media, and therefore, they hate anything that is not GOP, guns, GAWD, and pro-life. The corporate media is no longer journalism but a propaganda machine for the 1-2%.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)Democrats4All
(54 posts)I thought I was the only one that saw how positive Politico was to Romney and how negative every article was about Obama. They even left out the Gallup numbers. They lost alot of credibility with me. It's weird how the Obame Fell Flat was kept for at least 24 hours and how Roger Simon was the original author then they added more authors to the article. That seems very strange to me.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)that plays up the "centrist" (ahem...corporate, security state, neocon) angle rather than the "red meat" theocrat, bigot, rabid anti-government (more reserved versions of anti-government, they can work with) sections of the TeaPubliKlan orchestra.
Any and all confusion about who and what Politico is comes from blind ignorance and/or ideological comfort with corporate power, enabling neocons, and advancing the security state.
spanone
(135,858 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)None of those things is true. But then, the Republicans don't run things according to pesky fact-checkers.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)12AngryBorneoWildmen
(536 posts)Fucking Jim Vandehei-Scum!
Mike Allen-Blow Me!
And Jonathan Martin (or J-Mart as your fellow vermin refer to you), Now YOU Blow Jim Vandehei!
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Many people use their sites for political info.
"Frederick J. Ryan Jr., former assistant to President Ronald Reagan, is president and chief executive officer" of Politico per wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politico.
"RealClearPolitics is a political news and polling data aggregator based in Chicago, Illinois. The site's founders say their goal is to give readers "ideological diversity". hey have described themselves as frustrated with what they perceive as anti-conservative, anti-Christian media bias, and while Patrick Stack of Time magazine has described the commentary as conservative-leaning, the site includes columns and commentary from both sides of the political spectrum.
The site was founded in 2000 by former options trader John McIntyre and former advertising agency account executive Tom Bevan. Forbes Media LLC bought a 51% equity interest in the site in 2007." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealClearPolitics
It helps to know what media sources and online sites are biased in favor of conservatives.
The poll collection data is really good, but like most right-leaning entities, there are often some foul articles posted at RCP: opinions of every hack from Hot Air bloggers to Scott Walker.
slor
(5,504 posts)Dubya.
SunSeeker
(51,646 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)thinking people are Noticing it!
Thanks for bringing joelgp's Diary over, ProSense!
"17. Plouffe not expecting bounce (This one is my favorite because while Plouffe is not expecting one, Gallup already found one!!)
And guess who didnt yet report that bounce which was posted on nearly every political site by 2:00pm yesterday?
You got it!!!
Politico!!!" !!
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)And I am not joking either.
Don
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)I finally deleted their app from my phone yesterday.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Who owns those hacks anyway?
7worldtrade
(85 posts)Looks like Politico is changing course, somewhat.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80949.html?hp=t1
babylonsister
(171,079 posts)ReasonableToo
(505 posts)The arrival is not evidence of "changing course". It's an appeal to independent voters - for Romney. It list all the issues that Romney is "armed" with on one side and who Obama hopes to appeal to on the other side.
It looked more like a call for Independents to lean R.
It didn't seem pro-Obama or even neutral to me.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)Here's my DU piece dated May of 2008.....exposing Politico.
Politico is quickly becoming an "Instant" Web Source-But Who are They, and whom do They Serve?
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FrenchieCat/244
VPStoltz
(1,295 posts)Twice in as many days, the Seattle Times has run full page pieces on how the Dems have "twisted" information and been "misleading."
Both articles contain the most stupid references: the debt ceiling deal (neither the Boner nor "O" could get their sides to get along so they jettisoned it) was an example of "O" misleading?!?! Or not taking the advise of the committee Lyin' Ryan sabotaged as an example of walking away?!?!?!
Someone at the top REALLY does not want this guy to win.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)go to Muckety and type in Politico and run the search (I have a result in my post) then please. do. click around and expand the boxes.
It's all right there in the connections.........
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)So, apparently Mitt thought mentioning Ryan's iPad songs is more important than thanking Our Troops for their service to our country.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I mean that, too.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)If they acknowledge the bounce it will probably be in reference to not being as big a bounce as Obama got in 08. Even if it's only a fraction of a percent off, the report will be Not as big a bounce in '12. When Obama trounces Mittens in the debates the headline will be something like Mittens performs above expectations. By November they will run headlines like We just hate Obama, because that is all they will have left.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)the Dems couldn't catch a break this week on NPR/FOX/(and now)POLITICO...
NOW i get it, thanks for this post.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)As for the first question, it is owned by the son of the Texas banker who gave George H.W. Bush his first job after Jimmy Carter fired him as CIA Director following the Church Committee Hearings revealed some of the depths of CIA crimes and domestic dirty-tricks. Bush, Sr. was appointed Director of First International Bancshares of Dallas and Luxembourg owned by Joe Allbritton who went on to takeover Riggs Bank of Washington and and ran it as a branch of BCCI that funneled Saudi intelligence support for al-Qaeda until the feds shut Riggs down after 9/11.
Politico is the well-financed new media mouthpiece of the Bush wing of the Republican Party. The Washington Times, owned by the late Rev. Moon, was the old media version run by a rival branch of Right-wing spooks who emerged earlier from the same Bush CIA Saudi-financed media operation.