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When Patrick Donohue retired in May after a 20-year career in customer service at AT&T, he and his wife, Kay, didnt celebrate. Instead, they argued over which pension option was better: obtaining a large portion right away or scheduling small monthly payments.
At issue was whether the lump sum might free them from paying further interest on the $97,932 they borrowed from the federal government so their four daughters could attend college, or if doing so would mean sacrificing their long-term financial stability. Ultimately, they settled on the monthly payments, guaranteed for both their lifetimes.
Kays position was, we would outlive the lump sum, said Mr. Donohue, 64, of San Diego. His inclination to take it may have been just as practical, though: After eight years of paying off loans, my concern was that we didnt have much of a cushion if we encountered a major expense.
Its a dilemma more American retirees can relate to: While most borrowers are 18 to 39 years old, people over 60 are the fastest-growing segment of the population with student loan debt, according to a report by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
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BusyBeingBest
(8,055 posts)My parents didn't pay back my loans for me. My sons are paying back their own loans, I'm not taking on their debt.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)Freddie
(9,269 posts)Are taken by the parents when the student is not eligible to borrow enough. Im sure thats what this is. Hated to do it but I had to to put my son thru Penn State. Was paying it off in chunks and finished it last year.
BusyBeingBest
(8,055 posts)so at least the parents aren't coughing up their own money. The debt might still be on their books and credit history, but they shouldn't be paying it themselves.
irisblue
(32,996 posts)"His daughters do not disagree. Kelly Donohue, 31, the oldest daughter, recently paid off her portion of the familys loans. But she still worries about her parents future. The parent loan situation has definitely made me think about how Ill support them when theyre no longer able to work."
BusyBeingBest
(8,055 posts)Freddie
(9,269 posts)Especially if the kid is earning more. I think this is going to be a big problem with people having kids later these days. Good friend is an older dad, hes 62 with a 21 year old daughter in college. I know he took out Parent Plus loans and the payments will start just when he wants to retire.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Parents typically do the cosigning.
The job market for college graduates blows. If the child can't get a job that pays well enough to cover the monthly repayments, the parents get stuck with it.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
Luckily graduate students don't require co-signers.
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democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Is it different for undergrad? I did not need a cosigner for my law school loans. I had been working for a few years at that point, but I don't remember having to show proof of my income or savings to get the loans.
MissB
(15,810 posts)The parent had to fill out FAFSA, and then a student can borrow $5500 the first year, $6500 for the next two and $7500 for the last year (or thereabouts, I may be off a bit on year three).
College generally costs more so kids look to parents to take out loans. Or they can go with private loans which usually need a co-signer (generally a parent).
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,367 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)this is the new normal . Have a couple of Grand Kids who I know will never plan to payback their Loans that their Parents co-signed for. We washed our hands of that mess that is coming down the road.
Thought we taught them better,boy,did we get a reality check. Neighbor Lady said she is going to have to help paying off her one Son's Student loans and she is a Widow 79 years old. She found out her late Hubby had co-signed the loan docs years ago.
MissB
(15,810 posts)I used to get phone calls from the loan services looking for my in-laws.
To me, that indicates that my niece was failing to pay her loans.
I assume shes righted that ship as shes bought a home. I dont get calls anymore because I dont have a home phone.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)or like many,No-Doc Loans are back with a vengeance. Contract for Deeds are the go to if someone has Credit issues and a have a credit card with a few grand space.
As I may have mentioned before. There are people who can make that happen. All depends on who is funding the mortgage and if they use questionable under writers.
Again,it is all about what info is brought to the table. Mostly Credit Score and source of income and if you beat the ratio,you are good to go.
Again,the sad state of affairs where Student loans are not dischargeable at Bankruptcy. Another issue certain Candidatures never touch.
IBEWVET
(217 posts)Taking out large student loans to get a degree in art history is wrong. Think about what kind of degree will have jobs available so you can better pay off the loan. Not everyone should go to collage, you can go through an apprenticeship and get paid while doing it. Electricians can earn 60 to 90 thousand dollars a year and not have to pay off a student loan. Same for pipe fitters and plumbers. Just saying.
Coventina
(27,129 posts)One size does not fit all.
What students should do is find out what they excel in doing and pursue that.
one size does not fit all. I feel parents pressure there kids to go to college, and some would be better off not going. Nothing against art history, I just feel it is crazy to take on huge debt for an education there are not many jobs open.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)There is an overabundance of tradesmen and not enough work to go around. Prices drop. Wages are depressed.
Good thing Econ 101 was a requirement for my bullshit arts degree, eh?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The compounding interest they charge on these loans is what destroys people.