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how do you clean salad greens to make them safe from virus? (Original Post) Fresh_Start Mar 2020 OP
I have a bunch of cilantro that I'm afraid to use, in the fridge. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #1
Count you blessings Disaffected Mar 2020 #21
my thought is the farmworkers probably can't afford to not work when they are ill Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #27
Yeah, I think of that too, even with the plastic-wrapped produce. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #35
uhh, the plastic wrapped produce onethatcares Mar 2020 #41
Rinse it good, then soak in a concentrated salt/water solution for at least 12 Blue_true Mar 2020 #50
I guess wash them in Clorox? LiberalArkie Mar 2020 #2
thank you ...i see diluting instructions on a later post Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #11
I bought fruit and vegetable Mossfern Mar 2020 #3
thank you nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #14
Rinse with dilute bleach/water solution, then well with water. Don't put up your nose uppityperson Mar 2020 #4
thank you very much nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #12
I edited amounts and added links to post above uppityperson Mar 2020 #38
A flamethrower. Newest Reality Mar 2020 #5
sadly no flamethrower or deep fryer available Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #29
Yes, Newest Reality Mar 2020 #60
How To Make A Chlorine Bleach & Water Solution To Sanitize Raw Fruits And Vegetables Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #6
thank you very much going to follow these instructions right now nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #16
Salad and veggie lover here too! Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #24
Thank you. I came up with too high and too low %s. uppityperson Mar 2020 #39
Thank you Hekate Mar 2020 #54
Grow your own. cwydro Mar 2020 #7
i actually went to the nursery last night to pick up seedings Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #18
Can't stand buying produce from the store anymore. cwydro Mar 2020 #44
we're 40 miles from the big valley so we have weekly farmers market Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #46
I could grow produce but the deer would eat it all csziggy Mar 2020 #55
I suppose you could soak them in a solution of bleach & water LibinMo Mar 2020 #8
See Answer #6 above. Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #23
Thoughts and prayers underpants Mar 2020 #9
LoL🤣 dewsgirl Mar 2020 #15
+1 nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #19
Throw them out and eat some Doritos XRubicon Mar 2020 #10
:) Luciferous Mar 2020 #53
Dilute bleach solution (1 tbsp to 1 Gallon of water 200 ppm) soak for five minutes then rinse hlthe2b Mar 2020 #13
thank you very much nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #20
Buy frozen or canned. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #17
thank you for the suggestion but I've honestly never seen them in frozen or canned form nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #22
Okay, I was thinking more along the lines of spinach, collards, broccoli, etc. zackymilly Mar 2020 #25
Maybe wear gloves to handle the packages? fierywoman Mar 2020 #28
That's what I'm doing, plus just started spraying down packages with hydrogen peroxide. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #30
you probably don't have to worry about contamination from that side of the supply chain Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #32
They are all airmailed. Wrapped in plastic wrap. Most are lab samples. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #34
UV light or UV-C light Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #47
Our clean rooms are equippied with UV lights when no one is inside. zackymilly Mar 2020 #48
Canned Salad coming to Amazon and Ebay. KentuckyWoman Mar 2020 #57
So washing my lettuce with vinegar and water isn't enough? Catherine Vincent Mar 2020 #26
1 to 1 water:white vinegar is good for e-coli bacteria and some viruses Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #37
My neighbor in Italy used to always wash her lettuce in the salad spinner container fierywoman Mar 2020 #31
i read that it doesn't really survive long at all on soft surfaces... Native Mar 2020 #33
coronavirus can survive several days on lettuces nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #43
Where did you see that? customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #52
pick em, wash em, eat em onethatcares Mar 2020 #36
once I have some growing I won't worry either Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #40
Pick off the outer layers or romaine or iceberg lettuce if it is a concern. Flaleftist Mar 2020 #42
I'm buying the loose mesclun mixes Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #45
Personally, I never buy romaine anymore. Sogo Mar 2020 #56
THANK YOU! greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #58
Two Days or so before you are to use them, clean them, Blue_true Mar 2020 #49
Thank you very much nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #51
Just to add blogslut Mar 2020 #59

BusyBeingBest

(8,059 posts)
1. I have a bunch of cilantro that I'm afraid to use, in the fridge.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:29 PM
Mar 2020

Prob just going to pitch it, don't know how many hands rummaged over it or who coughed on it.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
27. my thought is the farmworkers probably can't afford to not work when they are ill
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:54 PM
Mar 2020

either so its wasn't just the grocery store contamination I was worrying about

onethatcares

(16,185 posts)
41. uhh, the plastic wrapped produce
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:12 PM
Mar 2020

is just a nice way to sell the product....if you want to worry, think about the pickers having no bathrooms or fresh water to wash their hands all the time on the farms while picking

Hell, at this point do we even have pickers in the fields? I have my own garden and remove product one day before total ripeness.
If everything goes ripe at once, it's compost afaic.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
50. Rinse it good, then soak in a concentrated salt/water solution for at least 12
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:55 PM
Mar 2020

hours. After the salt solution soak, rinse in fresh water then put in a crisper where it can drain. Keep refrigerated below 46 degrees and above 40 degrees.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
4. Rinse with dilute bleach/water solution, then well with water. Don't put up your nose
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:32 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Don't touch your face with unwashed hands even at home.

https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/emergency/09_202278-B_Make_Water_Safe_Flyer_508.pdf

https://www.verywellhealth.com/make-your-own-disinfectant-solution-998274

Eta I don't know %. 1 part bleach to 9 parts water is for disinfecting surfaces. 8 drops to 1 gallon of water for drinking water. 10% seems too high for food.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
60. Yes,
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

All kidding aside, they are great sauteed with olive oil/butter and garlic and maybe some grated cheese on top. You get a lot more in one serving because you fry out the water, so it's extra strength.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
6. How To Make A Chlorine Bleach & Water Solution To Sanitize Raw Fruits And Vegetables
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:33 PM
Mar 2020
2 teaspoons Regular Bleach (8.25% sodium hypochlorite)
1 Gallon of clean water

This will result in a 200 ppm (parts per million) chlorine solution.

Let fruit or vegetables stand in solution for at least one minute.
Then rinse with tap water or potable water.

https://modernsurvivalblog.com/survival-kitchen/chlorine-bleach-for-sanitizing-raw-fruits-and-vegetables/

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
18. i actually went to the nursery last night to pick up seedings
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:41 PM
Mar 2020

so i'm going to do that too, but I already purchased some and I'm frugal so hated to throw them out.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
44. Can't stand buying produce from the store anymore.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:28 PM
Mar 2020

So much easier to grow it, then you know what you eat.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
46. we're 40 miles from the big valley so we have weekly farmers market
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:40 PM
Mar 2020

different towns different days...gives me so much more variety than I can do myself and I like to support the farmers

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
55. I could grow produce but the deer would eat it all
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:19 PM
Mar 2020

And there are a lot more of them than there is of me.

LibinMo

(533 posts)
8. I suppose you could soak them in a solution of bleach & water
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:35 PM
Mar 2020

(I have no idea what the ratio should be) then rinse off well afterwards.
I've quit buying greens except for broccoli-I steam that.

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
13. Dilute bleach solution (1 tbsp to 1 Gallon of water 200 ppm) soak for five minutes then rinse
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:40 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3147408/
The above is what is permitted and recommended for commercial food producers and establishments. It likewise applies to home use and is tested against the reference, norovirus contamination a hardy RNA virus that might be expected to be even harder to inactivate than the COVID-19 virus (also an RNA virus).

This study showed that combining dilute bleach solution with surfactant (e.g., detergent) can increase efficacy but I would not want to do that with greens:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3147408/

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
25. Okay, I was thinking more along the lines of spinach, collards, broccoli, etc.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:49 PM
Mar 2020

Think I'll skip all fresh fruit/veggies for a while.
I work for an Asian pharma company, and I'm worried enough about all the overseas packages that go through my area.
I received packages from India, Thailand, Italy, and China today.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
32. you probably don't have to worry about contamination from that side of the supply chain
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:00 PM
Mar 2020

unless the packages are airmailed...if the packages are cardboard.

ALLISON AUBREY, BYLINE: The new study looked at the novel coronavirus in a laboratory setting and found the virus can ....on cardboard up to 24 hours. https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/815307842/research-coronavirus-can-live-for-a-long-time-in-air-on-surfaces

your worry is probably who handled the package in the US.....if possible to put the packages aside for a couple of days before handling that would seem to make them safe

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
47. UV light or UV-C light
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:46 PM
Mar 2020

looks like it can disinfect against coronavirus...i thought i read 30 minutes but that probably depends on intensity...but then I think you'd need to flip the packages so do your own research...

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
48. Our clean rooms are equippied with UV lights when no one is inside.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:53 PM
Mar 2020

I think Monday I'll suggest constructing a UV light box/area to put packages through. I'll have to check what exposure time will be needed. Thanks for the idea.

fierywoman

(7,694 posts)
31. My neighbor in Italy used to always wash her lettuce in the salad spinner container
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 05:58 PM
Mar 2020

and throw in a handful of salt, swish it for about a minute, then rinse and spin dry. I have NO idea if this would kill what needs to be killed but there's been talk about inhaling steaming salt water being good to kill stuff in the lungs. I'm just throwing out the idea.

Native

(5,943 posts)
33. i read that it doesn't really survive long at all on soft surfaces...
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:01 PM
Mar 2020

that's why it survives longer on things that are less porous - stainless steel, 3 days; cardboard, 1 day. I don't know where I read it, but I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about fresh vegetables. I've read so much over the last week that everything's starting to run together, but I do recall seeing something about this and thinking, thank God I don't have to worry about this. Don't take my word for it though.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
52. Where did you see that?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:16 PM
Mar 2020

This whole thread has started me thinking about the declining bit of fresh produce I still have.

onethatcares

(16,185 posts)
36. pick em, wash em, eat em
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:05 PM
Mar 2020

unless you're buying them from a stand or wholesaler, then wash them thorougly and eat them.

Yeah, I know that sounds gruff but I just picked tonites salad out of the garden, tomatos, peppers, arugala, bib lettuce, one red beet, and greens from another.

I'm gonna eat them after washing them off.

No one but me has been in my garden the past month, I worry more about bird poop on the leaves than the virus on my greens

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
40. once I have some growing I won't worry either
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:10 PM
Mar 2020

but I know farmworkers don't have a lot of time for sanitation nor any paid sick leave

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
42. Pick off the outer layers or romaine or iceberg lettuce if it is a concern.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:13 PM
Mar 2020

That's the only part that would have been touched by other people.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
45. I'm buying the loose mesclun mixes
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:28 PM
Mar 2020

not head lettuce

but I could change to romaine and compost the outside leaves.
thanks for the suggestion

Sogo

(4,993 posts)
56. Personally, I never buy romaine anymore.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:13 AM
Mar 2020

Time and time again when there have been ecoli recalls of lettuce, it's been romaine.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. Two Days or so before you are to use them, clean them,
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:52 PM
Mar 2020

then put them into super-saturated salt/water solution and soak them covered over night in the refrigerator. The next day rinse them in fresh water then put into a crisper that allows the greens to drain. Cover them and refrigerate until ready to use. The greens will be crisp and taste delicious. Salt, because of the Sodium Ion, is one of the deadliest substances known to viruses and bacterial. That is the reason why food was heavily salted before the advent of refrigeration. BTW, keep the temperature in your refrigerator below 46 degrees, but above 40 degrees.

blogslut

(38,017 posts)
59. Just to add
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:09 AM
Mar 2020

You can home-sprout many dried beans and legumes. I have a lot of luck with sprouting green lentils.

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