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hatrack

(59,587 posts) Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:35 AM Mar 2020

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Actual NYT Headline! "Trump's False Claims About His Response To The Coronavirus"

Well I'll be all go to hell . . . .

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What Mr. Trump Said

“I don’t take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.”

False. The Food and Drug Administration issued a “draft guidance” in 2014 in which it sought to extend its authority to regulate laboratory-developed tests. But it’s wrong to blame that effort for the scattered and insufficient delivery of coronavirus tests as the guidance was not particularly relevant to emergency situations and was never finalized or generally enforced.

EDIT

What Mr. Trump Said

“If you go back to the swine flu, it was nothing like this. They didn’t do testing like this, and actually they lost approximately 14,000 people, and they didn’t do the testing. They started thinking about testing when it was far too late.”

False. This is blatantly wrong. Diagnostic tests for the swine flu were approved and shipped out less than two weeks after the H1N1 virus was identified and a day before the first death in the United States. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention identified the first case of the virus on April 14, 2009. The Obama administration declared swine flu a public health emergency on April 26. The Food and Drug Administration approved a rapid test for the virus two days later. At the time, the C.D.C. had reported 64 cases and zero deaths. The C.D.C. began shipping test kits to public health laboratories on May 1 (at 141 cases and one death) and a second test was approved in July. From May to September 2009, the agency shipped more than 1,000 kits, each one able to test 1,000 specimens.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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Actual NYT Headline! "Trump's False Claims About His Response To The Coronavirus" (Original Post) hatrack Mar 2020 OP

NYT decided to start reporting the truth about Trump? yardwork Mar 2020 #1

Yeah, and it only took two years and two months hatrack Mar 2020 #5

They'll resume usual programming now. yardwork Mar 2020 #8

Is the photo on your post, Dr. Peebles? Cozmo Mar 2020 #19

K&R... spanone Mar 2020 #2

EVERYBODY click the link! Give them eyes on this article so they'll keep it up! Squinch Mar 2020 #3

Better yet. Book mark it. sarge43 Mar 2020 #4

It's pretty standard that the first mention is "President", followed by "Mr." or just the last name. sl8 Mar 2020 #6

Maybe I missed it, but I don't think NYT called him President at all. sarge43 Mar 2020 #21

First paragraph under the byline. sl8 Mar 2020 #25

I will bookmark it but tell me: I'm tech ignorant. They see when we bookmark? Squinch Mar 2020 #14

I hit the paywall. Every other publication has lifted restrictions, but not NYT. yardwork Mar 2020 #9

They want you to sign in for a free access account. I don't like it but Squinch Mar 2020 #13

Got it! Thanks. yardwork Mar 2020 #16

Clear your cookies.... flying_wahini Mar 2020 #20

Everyone is finished with the fucking LIAR - malaise Mar 2020 #7

Everyone but the 40% of voters who are his base and will NEVER abandon him :( hangaleft Mar 2020 #30

We can save NYT a lot of electrons, ink and paper. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #10

Donny Six Words . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #11

Or 7 central scrutinizer Mar 2020 #26

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #27

These words here bdamomma Mar 2020 #12

Little wonder he hates the media... fact checking. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #15

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #28

I'm going to start calling it Captain Trumps. PatrickforO Mar 2020 #17

The Buck-Passer in Chief OnlinePoker Mar 2020 #18

GOOD. It's about time! Now, try this: it's a little bitty three-letter word: calimary Mar 2020 #22

Good God in Butter. Can Joe B take over now? Botany Mar 2020 #23

Similar article at Chicago Tribune Cadfael Mar 2020 #24

Serial Liar Lying colsohlibgal Mar 2020 #29

yardwork

(61,622 posts)

1. NYT decided to start reporting the truth about Trump?

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:37 AM

Mar 2020

hatrack

(59,587 posts)

5. Yeah, and it only took two years and two months

Reply to yardwork (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:16 AM

Mar 2020

Fourth Estate!!

yardwork

(61,622 posts)

8. They'll resume usual programming now.

Reply to hatrack (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:30 AM

Mar 2020

Somebody will probably get fired for this article.

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)

19. Is the photo on your post, Dr. Peebles?

Reply to hatrack (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

Mar 2020

spanone

(135,841 posts)

2. K&R...

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:37 AM

Mar 2020

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

3. EVERYBODY click the link! Give them eyes on this article so they'll keep it up!

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:44 AM

Mar 2020

sarge43

(28,941 posts)

4. Better yet. Book mark it.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:05 AM

Mar 2020

Noticed NYT is calling him "Mister" rather than "President".

sl8

(13,781 posts)

6. It's pretty standard that the first mention is "President", followed by "Mr." or just the last name.

Reply to sarge43 (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:24 AM

Mar 2020

NYT had an article about this back when some Bush supporters complained about it.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)

21. Maybe I missed it, but I don't think NYT called him President at all.

Reply to sl8 (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:41 PM

Mar 2020

Well, I never have.

sl8

(13,781 posts)

25. First paragraph under the byline.

Reply to sarge43 (Reply #21)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:17 PM

Mar 2020

Copy and pasting from it is challenging.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

14. I will bookmark it but tell me: I'm tech ignorant. They see when we bookmark?

Reply to sarge43 (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:10 AM

Mar 2020

yardwork

(61,622 posts)

9. I hit the paywall. Every other publication has lifted restrictions, but not NYT.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:31 AM

Mar 2020

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

13. They want you to sign in for a free access account. I don't like it but

Reply to yardwork (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:08 AM

Mar 2020

I finally gave in. I get all the coronavirus articles and a lot of others without a subscription. Its like a very limited subscription but it's free.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)

16. Got it! Thanks.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:21 AM

Mar 2020

flying_wahini

(6,600 posts)

20. Clear your cookies....

Reply to yardwork (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:29 PM

Mar 2020

malaise

(269,022 posts)

7. Everyone is finished with the fucking LIAR -

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:26 AM

Mar 2020

the mendacious murderous monster.

hangaleft

(649 posts)

30. Everyone but the 40% of voters who are his base and will NEVER abandon him :(

Reply to malaise (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:26 AM

Mar 2020

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)

10. We can save NYT a lot of electrons, ink and paper.

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:47 AM

Mar 2020

"Donald Trump is a LIAR".

There, fixed it.

I never cease to be amazed at the MSM's reluctance to use that word........

You knew he was a snake when you let him in the door....

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)

11. Donny Six Words . . . . nt

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:57 AM

Mar 2020

central scrutinizer

(11,650 posts)

26. Or 7

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:53 PM

Mar 2020

“I like the numbers where they are”

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)

27. +1

Reply to central scrutinizer (Reply #26)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:59 PM

Mar 2020

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)

12. These words here

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:07 AM

Mar 2020

from him is so sick I hate this bastard.

“I don’t take responsibility at all

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

15. Little wonder he hates the media... fact checking. (nt)

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:16 AM

Mar 2020

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)

28. +1

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 05:00 PM

Mar 2020

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)

17. I'm going to start calling it Captain Trumps.

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:10 PM

Mar 2020

Or the Trump pandemic.

Obama had it under control. He was solid, careful and good at anticipating things. Unfortunately, he was such a good president while at the same time being black.

So, of course, Trump HAD to fire the US Pandemic Response Team, don't you see? He had to! He has had to reverse everything Obama did to placate his white supremacist base.

OnlinePoker

(5,721 posts)

18. The Buck-Passer in Chief

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:10 PM

Mar 2020

Any time something good happens, it's his doing. Any time it goes to shit, it's someone else's fault.

calimary

(81,298 posts)

22. GOOD. It's about time! Now, try this: it's a little bitty three-letter word:

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:44 PM

Mar 2020

Lie.

Try that now. It’s okay. You CAN use that word. It works, it’s legit, it fits here, and it’s ACCURATE.

Lie. And Lies. And Lying. And Liar. All those riffs on the main word.

It’s okay to go ahead with that. You’re supposed to be telling the truth in your coverage. This is truth. You’re supposed to be in the truth-telling business.

Don’t couch it or pussyfoot around it or try to tidy it up or use a slightly less - um- angular word. Stop trying to round off the sharp edges.

Use the word LIE. Because that’s the objective truth here.

Botany

(70,510 posts)

23. Good God in Butter. Can Joe B take over now?

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:44 PM

Mar 2020

How many people are going to die because of this Apricot Hell Beast?

Cadfael

(1,297 posts)

24. Similar article at Chicago Tribune

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:16 PM

Mar 2020

Here’s a link to a similar article at the Chicago Tribune (I don’t know it the paywall applies, sorry if it does)

**ETA - this appears to be a repeat of the exact NYT article.**

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-nyt-trump-coronavirus-fact-check-20200314-njmusi6xdffv5ewi5ly7ukik64-story.html

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“As he declared a national emergency over the coronavirus outbreak, President Donald Trump attempted to deflect criticisms of his administration’s response to the virus with inaccurate claims. Here’s a fact check ....”

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)

29. Serial Liar Lying

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:09 PM

Mar 2020

Hard to believe that he actually believes he can fool anyone outside of his solid base. It is on Video Tape Twitler, you first saying it was a hoax, then saying the cases would go from 15 to zero then just disappear.

He has to be losing all but his solid crazy MAGA hat crazies.

We have to crush him in 2020 anything remotely close and he will cry foul.

Of course even if we indeed hold all three branches after the New Year what to do with his base?

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