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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:12 PM Mar 2020

WOW

Fox News’s Martha MacCallum asks CMS Administrator Seema Verma 4 times in 3 minutes whether there is a shortage of ventilators and intensive care units in the U.S.

Verma dodges 4 times.

MacCallum at the end:

“OK, that’s not a direct answer to the question."



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dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
1. Call your local hospital and ask them how many ECMOs they have
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:14 PM
Mar 2020

They look like this:





We're fucked


EDIT: Don't call your hospital. It is a fact that we don't have the hardware and staff to take care of every patient requiring ECMO in an epidemic.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
4. Hospitals are busy enough and don't need such nuisance calls
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:16 PM
Mar 2020

Whether you were speaking rhetorically or not, I think it helps to say that.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
5. From what I was reading...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:19 PM
Mar 2020

I looked up the ventilator supply here, (not respirators which are being confused with them).

It is estimated that we have about 75,000 in supply. It was also estimated that we would need 178,000 or more during an emergency like this. Keep in mind that they are essential for people with severe complications concerning pneumonia and breathing, which is the secondary aspect of this.

If anybody has other info, or different stats, I would be glad to hear it.

Another question is what is in our strategic stockpiles. Their whereabouts and the amounts of supplies they hold are kept secret because that's part of being strategic, but the time is coming where we will be relying on them and should be informed about what is going to be available and when and where. That's important and includes many kinds of vital, medical supplies.

How many ventilators do we have in stockpiles? They are complicated and expensive machines from what I understand. They are also going to be a matter of life and death for many.

BusyBeingBest

(8,054 posts)
6. Of course there isn't enough, if thousands of people need this shit
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:21 PM
Mar 2020

all at once. ICU units are often filled as it is with open heart patients, trauma, sepsis, aneurysms, etc.--some on vents, some not. All of those "regular" patients would have to be transferred out to lower-care-level units first. They would need to ship Covid patients to designated isolated areas with respiratory support, I think. Maybe use ambulances to transfer patients to different sites as space fills up locally. I don't see another way to do this.

malaise

(269,022 posts)
10. From day one Seema seemed like a dodger
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:27 PM
Mar 2020

She just 'seema' glad to be there. I wouldn't hire her to feed the feral cats

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
15. +1, and Fauci keeps dodging the modeling question when he can baseline all variables with a
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:33 PM
Mar 2020

... happy path metric then go from there with giving us a range.

They are still in cover up mode while we don't have unfettered testing to know who is sick.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
16. We will never have enough for a pandemic
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:35 PM
Mar 2020

If we don’t flatten the curve. The entire pandemic defense strategy is built on that assumption.

Had we followed the plan and taken the steps we are now 3-4 weeks ago we would be in much better shape. But now the jury is out. The next 3 weeks will tell the tale. Hopefully we did just enough just in time. I’m worried we did not.

Laffy Kat

(16,382 posts)
17. She's not answering because the answer is no.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020

Physicians will have to make difficult decisions over who gets a ventilator: a 15-year-old boy with pneumonia, or a 40-year-old mother of three.

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