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ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:45 PM Mar 2020

Bush 41

Oversaw the start of the recession caused by the failure called Reaganomics.
Not his fault.
Got trounced in 1992. Nearly 6 million popular votes and Killed in the EC by 202 votes. He got creamed by a relatively unknown, although charismatic young guy.
Yeah I know Perot mucked things up, but a recession and slow market growth doomed him.
Now we're at negative ROI for millions of middle class savers with 401k, and we were in the longest growth period ever (questionable)
I realize the virus is an extrinsic influence, but in recent memory, a bad economy doomed a sitting president.
I'm not the type to hope for pain to the masses, but is this a hopeful sign for the detractors?

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Bush 41 (Original Post) ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 OP
As far as we know, Bush Sr. didn't enlist the Russians to run interference. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2020 #1
Not the Russians, FoxNewsSucks Mar 2020 #2
Fair, But... ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #3
The '92 election was about 2 years after Bush signed... JHB Mar 2020 #4
Yes, I Meant To Mention That ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #5
That is true Polybius Mar 2020 #6

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
1. As far as we know, Bush Sr. didn't enlist the Russians to run interference.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:47 PM
Mar 2020

So not quite the same animal we are dealing with now.

But all things being equal, we can hope.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
2. Not the Russians,
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:55 PM
Mar 2020

but I'd be surprised if he had nothing to do with the deal with the Iranians to hold the hostages, which pretty much threw the election to St Raygun.

Bush is as corrupt as MF45, he's just not blatant or an imbecile

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
3. Fair, But...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:56 PM
Mar 2020

He didn't actually win amongst the populace in 2016, with Russian help. He skated with the EC. 40k votes the other & nothing.
People bought the "business man" nonsense and now that we're headed to recession & 401k values are zero growth, the "good for the economy & my 401k" thing has evaporated.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
4. The '92 election was about 2 years after Bush signed...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

...the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990.

Conservative media then proceeded to perpetually crucify him for having gone back on his "Read my lips, No New Taxes" pledge. They continued grumboling about it even through election season, though by that time their main focus was finding every way possible to smear Bill Clinton (and inventing new ways when that wasn't enough).

Not disagreeing with you, just noting that the conservative messaging and propaganda environment back then was a drag on Bush in a way that it won't be for Trump.

It might end up being a drag on him in a different way (like the lighting-fast, Soviet-grade apparatchik flips when the Republicanly Correct position suddenly changes), but not the same way.

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
5. Yes, I Meant To Mention That
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:06 PM
Mar 2020

But, he did a phenomenal job of explaining why the tax increase was needed. The bleating brought us Perot but even absent that, he got creamed.
The sliding economy doomed him, no matter what far right pundits said or did. They sure didn't prefer Clinton. So, they bloviated, then voted for Bush.
He lost anyway.

Polybius

(15,444 posts)
6. That is true
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:11 PM
Mar 2020

Poppy Bush was never liked by conservatives the way they loved Reagan. Trump seems to be far more popular with Republicans as well. In 1992, I'm sure at least a few voted for Perot. This year, I think 3rd Parties will be exceptionally weak.

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