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global1

(25,253 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:55 PM Mar 2020

If A Person Is Not Self-Isolating At Home And Is Out And About Exposed To Others.....

on a percentage basis - how much does their risk go up on a daily basis of getting the virus?

Everyday - we see the numbers of cases of virus go up and we see the number of people dying from the virus go up as well.

So as the numbers increase - is there a way of calculating one's risk - on a daily basis - if they don't self-isolate?

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If A Person Is Not Self-Isolating At Home And Is Out And About Exposed To Others..... (Original Post) global1 Mar 2020 OP
Reverse it....how many people are they infecting? Lars39 Mar 2020 #1
+1. yonder Mar 2020 #6
It would depend on how hard the virus has hit your area. LuckyCharms Mar 2020 #2
+1 Impossible to know because Trump suppressed testing. lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #10
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #11
+10000 dewsgirl Mar 2020 #27
This. Impossible to know both individually and in terms of community spread without tests. crickets Mar 2020 #28
The answer would be complicated genxlib Mar 2020 #3
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #17
does a sniffle qualify as reason to self isolate? Demonaut Mar 2020 #4
Being perfectly healthy qualifies as a reason to self-isolate. lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #12
You'd probably have to assign a value to each encounter, and figure out how many encounters Mike 03 Mar 2020 #5
seems like if the people close by are not sneezing or coughing the risk is somewhat low nt msongs Mar 2020 #7
And lots of people still have to work. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #8
Yes - and to minimize the unavoidable risk from that, everybody else needs to do their part. lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #13
Excellent point. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #19
Welcome to the also forced on us, clueless clusterfuck of knowledge? Brainfodder Mar 2020 #9
Pissed off and pissed on, urine the Trump generation. lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Mar 2020 #14
WTAF? Are you kidding me? lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #16
Nope. I'm still damp in my bathing suit sitting out on my lanai. jimfields33 Mar 2020 #18
Please stop. You know the real numbers are at least 20x higher; Trump is suppressing them lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Mar 2020 #22
Actually I am in the home 24/7 except for buying food (and reduced trips for that) lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #31
?, I hope they boosted the chlorine Demonaut Mar 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Mar 2020 #23
lol, wrong forum Demonaut Mar 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Mar 2020 #25
I'm sure they meant your post should be in the Creative Speculation forum on DU Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #32
On the 16th, Arkansas had 22 cases WhiteTara Mar 2020 #26
I ride the bus to work. tazkcmo Mar 2020 #29
Article with excellent graphic examples of how the virus spreads by proximity crickets Mar 2020 #30

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
1. Reverse it....how many people are they infecting?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:57 PM
Mar 2020

And gawd forbid they're an asymptomatic super-spreader.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
2. It would depend on how hard the virus has hit your area.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:57 PM
Mar 2020

Another variable: Because of lack of testing, it is virtually impossible to know how many people in your area are carriers.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
28. This. Impossible to know both individually and in terms of community spread without tests.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:18 PM
Mar 2020

The best strategy is to assume you have it and limit contact as much as possible, as though you don't want to give it to anyone else.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
3. The answer would be complicated
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:00 PM
Mar 2020

But more importantly, you are missing one of the main variables. That is how many other people are self-isolating.

My risk in wandering the streets would be near zero if nobody else was out. It goes up depending on how many other people are out. Specifically, how many carriers are out.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Being perfectly healthy qualifies as a reason to self-isolate.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:50 PM
Mar 2020

Everybody should, as much as practical.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. You'd probably have to assign a value to each encounter, and figure out how many encounters
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:02 PM
Mar 2020

with other people this hypothetical person is having, and then look at the region and see what the infection rate is. But there are all sorts of unknowns. But it seems to me like risk rises with the number of close encounters (within six feet) and I wouldn't even know how to factor in the airborne component. Is the person mostly inside or outside, riding trains or jogging alone on the beach.

It's an interesting question. I don't even think we know what the infection rates are in most states due to lack of testing. So it would be impossible to say "X people are infected for every Y people who aren't infected." Not every person, obviously, you encounter is infected, but that number is rising every single day. So it becomes more risky with time elapsed.

The people dying today might have been infected three weeks ago and felt great until five or seven days ago.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
8. And lots of people still have to work.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:44 PM
Mar 2020

Myself included. Granted my team works outside individually all day. We no longer get within 6 feet of each other and everyone is issued a jumbo sized container of sanitizer. Then go straight home and stay there.

But some people’s job demand the have close contact with people like first responders and medical personnel. And grocery employees.

I know I would be safer just sitting home, but society can never truly shut down.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. Yes - and to minimize the unavoidable risk from that, everybody else needs to do their part.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:52 PM
Mar 2020

If I see the employees once a week at the grocery store, instead of every day, I'm reducing my risk and theirs. And if, in between trips, I'm sitting at home, I'm reducing their risk (and mine) that much more.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Excellent point.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020

I normally go to the grocery daily as we decided what we want for supper daily. But am trying to keep it to twice a week now and actually planning menus ahead. It wired going into the grocery for 4-6 items and still seeing everyone else loading up their carts.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
9. Welcome to the also forced on us, clueless clusterfuck of knowledge?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:47 PM
Mar 2020

Glad to see more PISSED OFF!

We should be sick of being PISSED ON!

Response to global1 (Original post)

jimfields33

(15,832 posts)
18. Nope. I'm still damp in my bathing suit sitting out on my lanai.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:58 PM
Mar 2020

We only have two cases in the entire county and it’s humongous. Lake county is extremely large. I mean Tom Hanks and wife are totally ok now.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. Please stop. You know the real numbers are at least 20x higher; Trump is suppressing them
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:00 PM
Mar 2020

by blocking the availability of tests. Even though he has theoretically lifted the de facto testing ban, we are way behind the 8-ball.

Start acting like it matters.

Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #20)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
31. Actually I am in the home 24/7 except for buying food (and reduced trips for that)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:23 PM
Mar 2020

So you won't act until ordered by your Republican governor? You think any Republican gives a shit about your safety?

Response to Demonaut (Reply #21)

Response to Demonaut (Reply #24)

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
32. I'm sure they meant your post should be in the Creative Speculation forum on DU
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 08:05 PM
Mar 2020

...since you're spreading woo.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
26. On the 16th, Arkansas had 22 cases
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:13 PM
Mar 2020

on the 18th we now have 33 and one in Fayetteville which is a college town. Classes are online, but they still live in close quarters in dorms.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
29. I ride the bus to work.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020

And I live in Trump country. That's a double whammy. I really don't want to know the answer to that question.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
30. Article with excellent graphic examples of how the virus spreads by proximity
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:52 PM
Mar 2020

and how various degrees of social distancing work to stop the spread:

Why outbreaks like coronavirus spread exponentially, and how to flatten the curve
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/


Note access to all of WaPo coronavirus coverage is free: https://www.washingtonpost.com/coronavirus/

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