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demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:44 PM Mar 2020

Yashar Ali: I received this email from an RN at a hospital in the United States.

I received this email from an RN at a hospital in the United States.

I have verified their identity.

I have only redacted their name and the name of the city where their hospital is located.

Please read.



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Yashar Ali: I received this email from an RN at a hospital in the United States. (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2020 OP
Sounds like the hospital 2naSalit Mar 2020 #1
Better not get cancer or have a heart attack for the next 18 months. OMGWTF Mar 2020 #2
Prepare yourselves DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #12
think of how much 'they' will save on medicare payments pangaia Mar 2020 #17
And........ DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #18
My physician friend who is a Kaiser administrator tells me the same thing. utopian Mar 2020 #3
How did S Korea do it? nt wiggs Mar 2020 #4
Because tS Korea is a densely populated country, they are always prepared for this and can LiberalArkie Mar 2020 #7
Drive-thru testing, quarantining, strenuous contact tracing, ... more in the article Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #10
+1 Testing and tracking. Thanks for the article link. nt crickets Mar 2020 #19
The stories coming out of Italy are terrifying. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2020 #5
careful with those pins ... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #8
This is underlining why our current for-profit health care model is impractical and immoral crickets Mar 2020 #6
Hospitals have gone Lean Soxfan58 Mar 2020 #9
Yes! --- " Its a horrible process for healthcare." - It's a business process/decision. keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #11
Could this be the turning point? luvtheGWN Mar 2020 #15
But Soxfan58 Mar 2020 #21
motherfucking republicans certainot Mar 2020 #13
HHS let the supply of N95 masks shrink to 1% of what it should be. riverwalker Mar 2020 #14
It's one thing if all the old farts die tavernier Mar 2020 #16
You're abolutely right n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #20

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
1. Sounds like the hospital
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:03 PM
Mar 2020

where my niece is an RN. I worry about her and everyone in healthcare right now.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
7. Because tS Korea is a densely populated country, they are always prepared for this and can
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:21 PM
Mar 2020

easily ramp up production of what they need. Like China. Build a hospital in a week, in the US it would take a month to just get it out of a focus group to determine the optics of it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)
10. Drive-thru testing, quarantining, strenuous contact tracing, ... more in the article
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:48 PM
Mar 2020

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/coronavirus-cases-have-dropped-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success

South Korea’s experience shows that “diagnostic capacity at scale is key to epidemic control,” says Raina MacIntyre, an emerging infectious disease scholar at the University of New South Wales, Sydney. “Contact tracing is also very influential in epidemic control, as is case isolation,” she says.


Also, SKorea has the world's second best healthcare system (don't have the reference). That means many times better than the US. We aren't talking peak healthcare (healthcare for the 1%), but median healthcare or other measures.

Thus the death rate in SKorea is around 1% while in Italy it is around 7% or more.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. The stories coming out of Italy are terrifying.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:16 PM
Mar 2020

Esp. with health staff falling out with the virus, and being so overworked, extreme shortage of equipment, no space for all the patients, no critical care oxygen/respirators to treat all the pneumonia patients,
so Docs are having to make heart rending triage choices.

In cases of epidemics/massive disasters like Katrina, medical triage is almost always a factor.

As as I am about/over/at trump, there is no excuse for Pence, McConnell, and other WH-Gov. people for not doing the right thing.

Believe me, I am sticking sooo many pins into their dolls.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,356 posts)
8. careful with those pins ...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:40 PM
Mar 2020

If you pop the Grotesque Orange Pustule, there will be a spike in all kinds of infectious diseases of mind and body.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
6. This is underlining why our current for-profit health care model is impractical and immoral
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:16 PM
Mar 2020

Ants in my eyes Adam
@adamfry901
·
2h
Replying to
@yashar
Again, why do we have the most expensive medical care/insurance in the world and we cant even provide basic supplies to our hospitals??

Janice Badger Nelson
@JNelsonRN
·
2h
Because hospitals have had to cut back budgets because of big insurance and their low reimbursement to hospitals.

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
9. Hospitals have gone Lean
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:44 PM
Mar 2020

The the Japanese manufacturing model where Supply inventorys are decrease to save money the only problem is Japanese manufacturers don't have to heal and comfort contagious people in a pandemics. Its a horrible process for healthcare.

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
11. Yes! --- " Its a horrible process for healthcare." - It's a business process/decision.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:04 PM
Mar 2020

" Its a horrible process for healthcare." - It's a business process/decision.

Like not putting the backup generators for a nuclear power plant up high where they won't get flooded out.

Cheaper to place them a lower level.

Sometimes reliability is more important than saving a few bucks.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
15. Could this be the turning point?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:29 PM
Mar 2020

I heard some suggestions from government folks that medicaid would be expanded. Since medicare for all seems to be the #1 issue in the Democratic primaries, perhaps, just perhaps, the folks who will experience the worst of this pandemic will realize medicare for all is a pretty damn good idea and could (or would have) save(d) their asses or those of their loved ones.

When the pendulum swings too far one way...........

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
21. But
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:04 AM
Mar 2020

As long as for profit healtcare exist. So will this problem. We need to socialize healthcare. Not just change the payer source. This was not my opinion a month ago, but times change.

tavernier

(12,393 posts)
16. It's one thing if all the old farts die
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:40 PM
Mar 2020

but if all the doctors and nurses and auxiliary health care staff die, it’s game over.

I’m both a nurse and an old fart so I can write this.

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