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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs free money really the best answer?
Dont get me wrong; I know we will need to provide actual cash assistance to some people to assure that housing and utilities can be maintained. I just question the wisdom of an economic stimulus package coupled with a self isolation policy.
Providing an influx of cash is going to encourage people to shop, and to hoard. It is going to encourage unscrupulous suppliers to price gouge, which will disproportionately affect the most vulnerable.
What is really needed is distribution of needed supplies. House to house distribution of food, hygiene items, and other necessities. Care packages, delivered at regular intervals. And visiting nurses (or nurses aides) that are equipped to assess people in their homes- not just to track and treat the virus, but to attend to other needs, such as diabetes, mental health, mother and child, etc.
Thoughts?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)also, only one time payment . . .?
lettucebe
(2,336 posts)Supposedly more than one month, but who knows? I heard them describe it as "some MAY get as much as $1000." Uh, some? May? Sounds like don't expect much, as per usual with the current administration
coti
(4,612 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,326 posts)The point of this that a lot of folks are not gettin paid.
Tink41
(537 posts)What fantasyland do these questioners live in. Shopping?? Try mortgage.
VMA131Marine
(4,140 posts)but were not seeing general product shortages yet. Food is still being produced and delivered. Many restaurants are offering takeout service. Money needs to go into the system to keep it from seizing up and causing a much deeper recession, and we are going to be in a recession.
msongs
(67,420 posts)coti
(4,612 posts)Which is already happening.
2naSalit
(86,650 posts)number of people. Most will be paying bills with it.
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)It always does. There's only so much TP you can buy and store, and you can't buy what isn't on the shelf, besides. Even when they have/get the most coveted items, retailers are now clamping down on quantities people can purchase. I can assure you that this policy will remain in effect until things settle down. As an added bonus, the voluntary rationing will help get to things settling down so much sooner. But if people don't behave, they'll be in for a shock when the government institutes strict rationing of assorted goods.
I think we'll avoid that, though. Once people can't buy willy-nilly, they'll realize they'll be fine with what they have/can get. Then they'll start calming down and the supply chain will sort itself out.
We go through a mini version of this hoarder insanity every time a hurricane threatens our Texas coast. This frenzy will take longer to sort out than the usual hurricane, but we'll get there, soon enough.
One way or another. It's up to us to decide which one it will be.
djg21
(1,803 posts)The funds can be used to provide assistance to those who are living on reduced income, and unable to pay for housing, food, etc., as a result of COVID-19-related business closings. There are many people who are suffering financially, and things are only going to get worse. There is no need to pay money to persons who are not experiencing fiscal hardship. Trump is just trying to buy votes of dumbfucks.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)what the world looks like today, to you, and not imagining what it will look like, say...next week. People are going to have a hard time shopping when nothing's open. There won't be any visiting anybody.
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)what is the point of the money? The whole point of a stimulus package is to encourage people to spend the money to stimulate the economy. No spending, no stimulus.
Please understand that I am not implying that people will go on sprees, or be wasteful, or dont have needs. I am just positing that those needs might be better met through direct delivery rather than putting people at the mercy of the marketplace.
Tink41
(537 posts)It may be intended to keep economy going but I suspect it will be used to keep people in their homes.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Who says peeps won't buy things just because a brick and mortar is closed? Just spent $31 on Amazon this afternoon.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)maybe helping people live? For many of us a week without a paycheck means no food, medicine, gas, rent. I would imagine a lot of people will spend money in the on-line market place, or other local places that deliver.. We've been at the mercy of these places all our lives.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)And I went from a job to a skeleton crew to a soon closing. With no option of other jobs. One week. What do you think? No fault of our own.
msongs
(67,420 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)it out. And there is constant change going on right now.
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)I think a lot of people are going to be in the same position as you and your son. I wish we werent here.
What do you think will help?
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)keep house but not so much to get take out. Those that get it and do not need it can pass it forward. We will see where we sit in two months. Well the next couple weeks would be a tell. Hence two months covered then we can address the new realty in a week.
monmouth4
(9,708 posts)off but the landlord still wants his rent. Sad times, and he loves this job. They told him two weeks and then they would see how things were going. Who knows? So sorry for you and your son.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)We, the taxpayers, always end up paying for any "goodies" we're offered.
Don't trust Republicans!!!
Art imitates life:
doc03
(35,349 posts)durablend
(7,462 posts)Walmart closing at 8:30pm now, Home Depot at 6 pm. Others likely to follow.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,204 posts)it can help tide them over until their unemployment kicks in.
doc03
(35,349 posts)save money sitting at home watching TV. I have lost around $60000 of my IRA on paper.
I can donate more to Joe Biden I guess.
Nature Man
(869 posts)the US taxpayer pays into the system. It IS free money when taxpayer money is handed out to corporations, banks, and billionaires.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)greater thing to do in the long run.
We could work on training people to be techs to help out in hospitals that we build especially for victims of the virus, or open up new delivery services catering to those who will be sheltering in place in waves of outbreaks that will come (at least I think they will after this initial burst over time), work on infrastructure and expanding work on clean energy projects - sort of a new New Deal where we ensure that people can remain functional members of society rather than depending on government handouts that will mostly go to the banks and corporations anyhow.
In some ways there is a lot of opportunity to do great things as we rise from the ashes, which sadly will be squandered by our current administration.
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)I don't see how thousand dollar checks solves that problem.
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)Sounds like a great idea until we find out later in down the road what this stimulus really means.
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)In a real bind. Send it to fewer people but give the more than a couple checks. I suppose the quick way, though, is to just send something to everyone. I'll find a use, to be sure.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)So thanks for nothing.
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)2 people lost their jobs in the same household. My best friend worked 2 jobs and her DIL lost hers as a waitress. Her son is now the only one working and who knows how long he will be employed. They have 2 babies. Her husband just got done with his last round of chemo and can't work. They are barely afloat. 3 jobs lost...no pay for who knows how long. So no, they won't be out shopping except for groceries.
They'll be using it to pay bills and food, not for a new TV. Too many Americans are in this predicament. Paycheck to paycheck.
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)Government can cover the interest.
Then you move on to the helicopter money. And no means testing. It slows it down too much and and a persons financial situation is likely vastly different today than yesterday. You can make it equitable on the back end. For every dollar sent out you boost next years tax rate to take back from those deemed to have not needed it - with a full deduction if they donated the money this year.
MiniMe
(21,717 posts)To get the money back into the economy. I think that is 1 reason they are talking about means testing. Sending out money to billionaires isn't going to get the money back into the economy.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)folks this is America today.