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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUgh. Man died in CA after having been in Orlando for conf and theme parks
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/19/34-year-old-california-man-dies-coronavirus-visited-disney-world-florida/His sister says ... "He suffered a lot and put up a good fight. We will miss our Jeff everyday but we are thankful for all the fun happy memories of the times we had together."
Jeff's timeline regarding his COVID-19 infection is terrifying and should be eye-opening for people of all ages. According to his family, he flew from L.A. to Orlando on March 2 for a work conference, but stayed a few extra days to visit Disney World and Universal theme parks with friends.
We're told on March 7 he developed a cough, and the next day he coughed up blood. He flew back to LAX on March 9 ... and immediately went to the ER, where he also had a high fever.
Coventina
(27,172 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)I have a sick feeling that many who went to Disney and Universal are also going to get sick, and maybe die. The same goes for the people crowding the beaches at Clearwater.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)The photos showed crowds packed elbow to elbow. In about two weeks were going to see an outbreak from that.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)GumboYaYa
(5,952 posts)A team of wild horses could not drag me into a crowd these days!
rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)Clearwater got news coverage. I am not making excuses, just pointing out the facts.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)The same goes for any crowded beach in Florida where social distancing was difficult or impossible.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Thats really scary for you!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)Too many people in too little space.
I walked the beach at Honeymoon yesterday. Almost everyone kept distancing of at least six feet. There were a few dumbasses who passed by too close. I quickly started giving a wide berth to stupid looking people.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)And may have been for a while.
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MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)I'm not sure enough Americans realize how fast a person can deteriorate and all those people he has likely infected.
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)Sad and scary.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)a month that I'm paying way more than I need the stuff in there.
R.I.P. Mr Ghazarian. I wonder what hospital he was in. I was just in Huntington Hospital ( I go there often for business and have had 2 big surgeries there in the last 18 months) and the place was DESERTED, it's usually packed with folks coming and going.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)by my parents since I was an embarrassing (about-to-be) teen mother. (Even though my mother had already dragged me to Las Vegas to marry the birth father... not that he was ever in the picture after the "wedding"!) I took a whole semester of summer classes at Pasadena City College (gave birth right before finals, so had to make those up), while watching Watergate hearings on the TV in my bedroom (I was staying with a family with six kids, but luckily had my own room) in my spare time.
At that time, Huntington Memorial was a pretty high end hospital. I still have the hospital menu which included a choice of red or white wine! One entree was pastitsio. I probably didn't choose that since I would have had no idea what it was. (My loss...)
Granny M
(1,395 posts)a very long time ago.....
Truly a frightening timeline and travel history. This is really getting ugly. We had a jump of 34% in new cases here in Ireland today. Our Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said on Sunday that this was the calm before the storm. We are healthy but staying home and away from everyone as much as possible.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,364 posts)I don't like to speak ill of the dead, so I'll just shut up.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)USALiberal
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Karadeniz
(22,572 posts)The plane. Now everyone on that plane has shared his recycled air.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)of the 13th. Im guessing that meant low O2 levels but he wasnt taken to hospital until the 14th? And they knew he had pneumonia and Covid? How effing sick do you have to be before you get to go to the hospital?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)sdfernando
(4,941 posts)I flew from San Diego to Orlando for work on 3/3 but flew back on 3/4 as it was just to meet some vendors onsite to do a walk-thru and get quotes for an office expansion. I stayed in Lake Mary...didn't interact with a ton of people...but I was on 4 planes total...SD to Atlanta, Atlanta to Orlando, then back again. I didn't stay longer and didn't go to many places...but I did sit at the hotel bar and have dinner...it was Super-Tuesday and I sat and watched the results. That was 15 days ago and I'm not having any symptoms. Hope I dodge this thing!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Evidently you were already social distancing quite a bit. The symptoms usually start to show in 12 days, so youre probably OK.
sdfernando
(4,941 posts)The bar had a lot of people in it...and I was surprised they had MSNBC on the TV. Had dinner and a Boulevardier, then went up to my room. Next day was busy in the office but kept distance where applicable. No way to avoid it on the plane though.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)the ittle bit of social distancing may have been adequate for that moment. The chances of being exposed have risen exponentially since then. Even on airplanes.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Had a post-open project to work on at Disneyland and was supposed to fly out Sunday and return today.
Thursday night I was at work and me and a couple of other guys who were going to go had a conf call to discuss our options. I told them I didn't want to go (my wife and son have asthma and I'm not about to put them at any further type of risk). I told them my money was on the parks closing very soon anyway (and the next day was when the announcement was made to close all US parks)
sdfernando
(4,941 posts)I haven't been to a Disney Park and avoid as much of their products as I can...Was really pissed at them when they laid-off the entire IT staff at Disney World and made them train their H1-B replacements as a condition to getting severance pay (I work in IT so these were my bothers and sisters).....after Disney had 1 of their best years every. It was a fucking horrible thing to do...so I vowed never to set foot in the parks again, and avoid giving them my money if at all possible.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)I tried for years to get into IT...resume was a perfect fit for multiple positions...never got a call or email
So now I'm in engineering. Much better.
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)the plane where he was coughing up blood?
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)I don't think they're really even testing yet in Florida.
Bengus81
(6,932 posts)Says Pillboy:
The corona virus outbreak is being weaponized by the media to bring down Donald Trump when in fact it is simply a version of the common cold, the conservative radio host and presidential medal of freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh claimed on Monday.
And your stage 4 lung cancer is just basically having some difficulty breathing you asshat.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)FaceBook page mentions before he was ill: City of Hope, and Senior Dogs donations.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)My God!
denem
(11,045 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 19, 2020, 06:21 PM - Edit history (1)
He is symptomatic, coughing up blood, then decided - and was allowed to - take a commercial flight !
This country has had it. Cause of death: stupidity.
Ms. Toad
(34,087 posts)Qualifies for the Darwin award - unfortunately he almost certainly took others with him who don't qualify.
In my state, we just had someone travel to California and back with pneumona and a presumptive positive test. The family has remained silent (until he died) because they didn't want to panic people. So they left them exposed and exposing others.
Mr. Wagoner said his father had been fighting pneumonia while on his California trip, and so the family was cautious about disclosing his presumptive coronavirus diagnosis initially because we didnt want people to panic.
https://www.toledoblade.com/news/medical/2020/03/19/lucas-county-attorney-mark-wagoner-sr-dies-from-presumptive-coronavirus-infection/stories/20200319111
I'm pissed that someone in my family (we're all at risk) might die because these idiots aren't bright enough (or don't care enough) to not get on a plane when they are showing symptoms of a pandemic illness, or to inform others IMMEDIATELY when someone shakes some sense into them.
denem
(11,045 posts)They have been doing this in Asia since day 1. we didnt want people to panic my ass .
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)I get the sense in this situation people panic and just want to get home to their family, home and personal doctors so they disregard the risk. I've recently read a number of stories like this. People seem to have almost morbid fear of being in a strange place and losing control of their lives.
In a sane world, we might have private jets available just get sick people home when they're trapped. That's exactly what the ultra-wealthy do.
In an even more sane world, this fellow would have been tested before being allowed to fly a a commercial flight, then placed on a transport plane.
KY............
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)or maybe had an HMO without any out of network coverage. There are systemic and cultural problems in America causing sick people to avoid the hospital for too long, largely due to the costs.
Imagine if a sick person could go to any hospital anywhere in America and it would always be in network without any fees at the point of service. We might have different outcomes from these cases.
We need sick Americans to not fear going to the hospital.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)He may have thought I am not over 60 so Ill go to DW + UNi for a few days
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Though I know one should not speak negatively about the dead, but he really should have gone to an Orlando hospital. It could have helped him if he went in on the 8th when he was throwing up blood, but it is absolutely wrong that he boarded that plane given the circumstances. How many people did he expose on that plane?
Yes, I know he was young and with his family which would have had to face a choice of finding a place to stay or returning without him - a terrible choice.
obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)JFC.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)sad.
obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)For at least one day. Drove right to the airport after landing WITH A HIGH FEVER. He knowingly spread this at least the last two days at the parks, at the MCO airport, the shuttle or uber to the airport, in the plane, at his home airport, in his ride to the ER. JFC
wtaf
I feel very bad for his family.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Someone had to say it!
I am furious....
Good luck to you and yours!