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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis years Census will be devasting to the Democrats
It will almost entirely be counted by mail or internet. The field operations are suspended, probably canceled. The field operations is where they get the under counted, the poor, the homeless, immigrants, non-natives. Ones who don't answer the mailed form or the internet.. These skew much more Democratic. The under counting of this population will lead to dramatic realignment of the Congressional districts. Blue States will be affected more than Red States. Then the GOP will be free to gerrymander the Democrats out of the majority.
This will be bad.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)because they don't want the gummint to know their bidniss. Census workers have been regularly threatened by good ol' boys with shotguns.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)the demographics for who is under counted favors the GOP in a big way.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Told everyone I talked to to do the same.Easy to type in Census, form comes up. Simple questions.
Why another scare story?
edhopper
(33,615 posts)underprivileged underclass that are usually not counted and for whom the field operations are paramount for being counted.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)And the branches are still open.
Even schools do a good share of their work online. Computers are 5 times cheaper than TVs. Show me a house or apartment that does not have a TV!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)Homeless people don't have TVs. There's no place to plug them in under freeway overpasses. And being homeless, they never would have received the form that contains the reference number they have to use to complete the form.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)but you are demonstrating an amount of ignorance about this subject.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)They rely on Fox news, if they have tv. No computer literacy. No reason for them to go to the library, which is closed here until the virus thing is gone.
Lots of people living at the end of long dirt roads all over the county. No tv, because no broad band/cable that far out. No mail delivery, they have to use a PO box here in town, and find someone to read the mail for them. I know that because I have been that reader for people at times.
And I do not have a tv, btw.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)And throughout California.
flyingfysh
(1,990 posts)Even it they were open, they don't have all that many computers.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)especially the poor and the homeless, will be undercounted. They might not have computers or access to them and therefore can't fill out the form. If there are no census takers in the field those people won't get counted.
wcast
(595 posts)If that is what he meant he should restate his OP instead of casting dispersions on others who point out that he is not factually correct.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)wcast
(595 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)without field operations, many will not be counted. And that will hurt Democrats more than the GOP.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)As hard to get as Poll workers.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)But irrelevant if there is no field operations.
Not sure why you are pushing back from this problem?
wcast
(595 posts)N/T
edhopper
(33,615 posts)wcast
(595 posts)I posted this in response to your OP which states most of the Census will be counted by mail.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)it is about the under counted that are found by the field operations.
Not mail vs internet.
wcast
(595 posts)I have no argument with that sentiment.
jimfields33
(15,948 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)The field operations are suspended, probably canceled. The field operations is where they get the under counted, the poor, the homeless, immigrants, non-natives. Ones who don't answer the mailed form or the internet.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)I have been in many homeless shelters. They are about a meal and a place to sleep.
Buildings are now being opened for them to stop the spread of the virus.
I doubt they vote at all.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)It's also about where resources are allocated. And what you laid out is exactly why we need field operatives to count these people.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)How about writing down what you believe will happen and then checking it in the future?
Fwiw, on top of other answers, maybe consider that this census has been shaping up to this point to be enormously disastrous to the Republicans' hold on power. Our parties are not exactly poised at the same starting line waiting for the gun to go off.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)the under counting that will occur. Especially the demographics of those not counted. Hurt thevRepublicans?