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(21,110 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Alwaysna
(574 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)Mine would get aired unedited!
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)by the "brave" MSM, but it is certainly the correct response!
leftieNanner
(15,149 posts)He was gob smacked!
And I agree that it was a softball question - an easy opportunity for The Orange One to say something positive and encouraging.
There are no words to describe that man any more.
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)And be, like, presidential. Instead, he attacked Alexander. He is incapable of showing sympathy or empathy, and doesn't understand why other people value those properties. He is an asshole.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
archiemo
(493 posts)Aquaria
(1,076 posts)and he tried to homer the ball bag.
djacq
(1,634 posts)Thank You Peter Alexander.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)it seems he was giving him a chance to be *presidential* . they are failing us on so many fronts
marlakay
(11,491 posts)He said the reporter baited him because he knew he wasnt capable of a decent answer.
But if that was true, wtf! Not capable to have any empathy...
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)Trump likely has a cluster of personality disorders. As far as I could tell he meets criteria for Narcissistic PD and Antisocial PD. Both disorders entail a lack of empathy for others.
Trump was the son of wealthy people, but from accounts, he had a pretty messed up childhood which can also lead to a lack of empathy for others.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)that we desperately need answers to. trump is not capable of empathy and the reporter should know that or quit his job.
marlakay
(11,491 posts)They wont get to come back. I feel like no other person on earth could get away with what he has here, its insane.
Pillow talk
(265 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)That wasn't the only question he asked Trump.
Watch the entire press conference.
Dorian Gray
(13,499 posts)he asked Trump the hardest question....
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)It's one that's been used a number of times but like usual Trump chose instead to attack the person asking the question which shows why he was and always will remain a bad choice for President as a President has to show at least some restraint even if the face of tough questions by the Press.
If he cannot do that then he needs to resign.
Dorian Gray
(13,499 posts)of compassion or empathy or consolation.
But to assume the reported is baiting him because he asks a question that any reporter would ask any president in the time of crisis is kind of sad.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)How could you possibly be complaining about that? Trump's reply will turn off A LOT of people. Not the cultists, but the soft middle. Same with the way he treated Yamiche Alcindor, last week I think it was.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)were DESPERATE to hear something, anything of re-assurance, comfort, hope, LEADERSHIP, FFS.
THAT 'S WHY HE ASKED.
Grammy23
(5,813 posts)will find him attacking with a vengeance. He can not tolerate anyone having the temerity to question the great and powerful Oz and will quickly suffer his wrath. The fool is so far off the rails, he did not even recognize his chance to turn to the camera and offer a calm, rational answer even if it was a platitude. It was a missed opportunity to BE Presidential. But it is clear he does not have it in him. His go to strategy when being questioned is to attack. What a thin skinned baby. I hope he is crushed by the electorate in November but wont hold my breath. But that IS my fervent hope. He cant just be defeated. He must be destroyed.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)I didn't see it.
Poiuyt
(18,130 posts)CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)If there is one thing this POtuS has proven over and over again, it's that he is a POS.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He is such a weak, pathetic excuse of a human being. He can't ever see any situation outside of how it affects HIM. It is always about HIM. A true leader thinks about his people and what he can do to comfort them and take care of them. But not Trump. It's all about his ego. He just makes me sick.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)SunSeeker
(51,694 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)If then.
spanone
(135,873 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)Alexander is right. He gave him a wide opening to show compassion and empathy. He has neither, so could only attack.
SunSeeker
(51,694 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)OMGWTF
(3,975 posts)in last night's C-19 news conference. But, I understand you have to lavish some praise even if Trump openly hates California because most of California fking hates him but we are in crisis mode here.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Newsome knows that if he treats trump with the lack of respect he deserves then California gets fucked over twice.
Politicians need to occasionally tread lightly.
tblue37
(65,487 posts)Kali
(55,019 posts)the OA didn't take it well and went on the attack, said it was a nasty question, made a "joke" projecting nickname for his company - comcast is CONcast. typical ugly and juvenile shit that he says about the press and anybody that he thinks is dissing him. the thing was the question was a softball aimed to let him show leadership (vomit/bark-laugh) and compassion. he isn't capable of that so did his usual rude crap.
tblue37
(65,487 posts)Kali
(55,019 posts)to explain being vigilant, to reassure that we will get through it, to provide a positive or uplifting message, you saw what he did instead, and it goes to one of the fundamental reasons Americans are looking for a sense of confidence from their leaders in this moment, many glued to their teevees, behind closed doors in their homes, surrounded only by loved ones right now. he says he thinks it does sort of reveal frustration perhaps anxiety about his own political prospects. and about a situation that is hard to keep in control as we witnessed as it continues to spiral. bottom line this is a president who's experiences in life are very different than most Americans ... not a person who worries about finances or a person in the course of his live worried about his future, not a person who's worried about where he'll find a paycheck for his bills or rent, as evidenced by the president instead of telling the Americans how they should feel, took it out on me.
keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)brewens
(13,620 posts)what a great job he's doing, that he's winning and all that. Everyone else is supposed to make believe that the way it is.
oasis
(49,407 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)That was a legitimate question.
trump was responding to all the BS about the malaria drug that came immediately before. Honestly, Im not as ticked at trump as some for offering some hope in this regard. But, thats about the only thing Im not ticked at in all this.
I think some of the docs appearing with trump need to loosen up on their double-blind, long-term clinical studies in this situation. Apparently there is no real downside to using these meds in a closely monitored hospital setting vs. doing nothing. There are a number of docs in France, China, Korea and even the WSJ reported on docs using it here that believe it helps.
And its a cheap med, readily available. If I believed in conspiracy theories, Id say some of these docs must be stockholders in the big bucks pharmaceutical companies looking to make a killing.
In fact, I bet if trump said he had no interest in pursuing that med, many here including me would accuse him of shunning the cheap drug so his pharmaceutical buddies could make a mint with some new concoction that we know nothing about.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)You know, science.
One of those awful things the republicans cant deal with.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)"Didier Raoult, director of a university hospital institute in Marseille, explained that he had conducted a clinical trial in which he treated 25 Covid-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine. After six days, he said, only 25 percent of patients who took this drug still had the virus in their body. By contrast, 90 percent of those who had not taken hydroxychloroquine continued to carry the Covid-19."
https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-will-an-old-malaria-drug-help-fight-the-coronavirus
Now we can spend months or longer to make the FDA and statisticians happy, when we know we have a pandemic, people are dying and saving a day or two in a hospital bed or on a ventilator would be huge, and the drug for short-term, monitored use in a hospital has no serious side-effects since it's been used for decades, etc.
Doctors Turn to Malaria Drugs as Potential Coronavirus Treatment
Some studies of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have shown early signs of improving symptoms and manufacturers are donating drugs or looking increase supplies
https://www.wsj.com/articles/doctors-turn-to-malaria-drugs-as-potential-coronavirus-treatment-11584729626
China, South Korea and Belgium have added it to the treatment protocol for CV19
https://www.businessinsider.com/malaria-pill-chloroquine-tested-as-coronavirus-treatment-2020-3
But you keep worrying about those double-blind studies that the FDA has used to delay drugs and treatment, and would normally be criticized here for doing so, while patients lie in bed with no effective treatment but rest and hydration. Hell, I'd try weed and CBD oil, too, if we don't have anything else.
lostnfound
(16,189 posts)It might get robbed from pharmacies and patients who take it for other conditions wouldnt get it anymore, if they announced it.
Theyve been weirdly conflicted on this topic.
Vague comments about some drugs being in short supply here and there with no followup.
Response to Hoyt (Reply #40)
lostnfound This message was self-deleted by its author.
Lock him up.
(6,941 posts)that hospitals had seen cases of chloroquine poisoning after US President
Donald Trump touted the drug as a treatment against the coronavirus.
More on this thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213141511
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)That's worse than offering nothing, and far more dangerous. He has no business making that pronouncement, not only because he's not a doctor, but also because, as usual, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Malaria is caused by a parasite, a living cellular organism, and not by a virus, which isn't even an organism, really, but a genetic particle. That's why parasites and viruses do NOT respond to therapies the same way, or for the same reason. So applying an anti-parasite medication to a virus is an insanely stupid recommendation without a shit-ton of tests demonstrating efficacy.
Now imagine I'm a fucking moron who believes whatever this worthless prick says, and let's further imagine that I'm a rheumatoid arthritis patient who has some leftover Aralen (Choloroquine Phospate) that had been prescribed to me but I didn't use all of it. Uh oh. I think I have COVID-19. Now, because this idiot said that Chloroquine would "cure" me, I take that drug, rather than going to a doctor who knows what he's doing. And in the meantime, I'd be spreading the disease to everyone I might come into contact with while thinking I was healing and thus safe to be around others.
This is why it's stupid and dangerous to make these bullshit assertions for which there is ZERO evidence to back them up. People can die from this deluded bullshit.
And it's just as nonsensical to make up wild claims about the possibility that he'd decline to the med as a favor to "Big Pharma" for making big $$$$. You don't have to be a medical scientist to get enough information not to buy bogus crap like that. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why the chances are quite high that a medication combatting PARASITES would be a shitty treatment for combating a VIRUS. It's the same reason why antibiotics don't work on viruses: Because they're two very different agents, and require two different methodologies to work. What's fatal to one often isn't fatal to the other. Sometimes, they could overlap, but it doesn't happen often.
And no, you don't loosen up your scientific standards for reasons of convenience or panic. You adhere to those standards, more than ever, because so much is riding on them. That reason you're so damned skeptical of Big Pharma? It's because in the past we've had medications get approved without thorough studies, and it got people maimed or killed. Remember AZT? Yeah, that was a drug trial that gone done in a panic, and look how that turned out:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-rise-and-fall-of-azt-it-was-the-drug-that-had-to-work-it-brought-hope-to-people-with-hiv-and-2320491.html
Do proper testing. The better and more thorough the tests are, the less likely that mistakes will happen. We don't want the "cure" to be as bad or worse than the disease. Or an expensive waste of time, when other, more fruitful research could have gotten the necessary resources.
Too much is at stake to fuck around that way.
lostnfound
(16,189 posts)Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses
What is your purpose?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)outlined in Post #40, and the fact it is approved for other uses.
You can wait for the clinical trials if you like.
GReedDiamond
(5,316 posts)warmfeet
(3,321 posts)how do we get rid of him before we are all dead? Yeah, I get it. You don't think this is serious.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Was down 190 points when Peter Alexander asked his question at 1:40. It finished the day down 913 points.
But tanking the market when he opens his mouth has become the hallmark of Trump briefings.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,457 posts)up his ass.
Luciferous
(6,085 posts)apkhgp
(1,068 posts)This is what journalism is all about. Nice job.
rickford66
(5,528 posts)Save your softballs.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)I see the ball fly.
I see it. I scream, Don! I run for him. I run to beat the ball home; to beat the ball to its destination. It catches him just by the ear, right there where head, helmet, ear and cheekbone all meet. His helmet pops and flies. Don goes down.
I run, but the Maj beats me to him. He slides into him. Dirt flies everywhere. Maj rolls him from his stomach on to his back. Im there, right behind him. I drop down and touch my teammates arm. I want to say Im sorry, but suddenly his body shakes and flails. Im caught off guard and I yank back my hand.
Then he is still. His face is white, flat; the color of dust. The color of his colorless hair. He is dead. And I killed him.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)He's a shell of a human being. There's nothing inside of him but greed and ego. He's so busy worrying about his image of himself, that nothing tangible ever developed. All there is is image, a mirage, a chimera. He's a hollow caricature of a human being.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...is an idiot and an ass hat.
#notmypresident
RESIST!
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)I would have liked to hear a real President give a helpful heartfelt answer.
In the end, all I discovered is that Donald Trump is more scared than all of us. And he fears us.
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)...and in this on camera report later.
JmAln
(69 posts)Trump really showed his sociopathic side in that response. He has no empathy for the American people. Millions could die, and it would just be a statistic to him. His only concern would be how it might hurt his chance of reelection. Truly scary.
GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)..and dropped my jaw at Trump's response. This is very enlightening, seeing why Peter Alexander actually asked that question, that he intended it to be a softball...
Trump picks up subtleties like a granite rock. Another piece of evidence, amongst oh so many, of his utter incompetence...