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Sobering News.... (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Mar 2020 OP
our new cases dweller Mar 2020 #1
We are much larger than they are, but yes this is alarming. GreenPartyVoter Mar 2020 #2
We are larger, but given the purposeful sloth like response by Trump, Blue_true Mar 2020 #15
Hate to be such a naysayer, but the worst has yet to come. Laffy Kat Mar 2020 #3
Yes. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #16
tonite Demonaut Mar 2020 #4
my prediction... NRaleighLiberal Mar 2020 #5
At that rate by Tuesday.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2020 #9
Maybe it was you who posted the graph a couple days ago. Blue_true Mar 2020 #18
I didn't post the graph. But the numbers I list do describe the graph NRaleighLiberal Mar 2020 #19
sorry - wrong thread - I posted the data here (see below) NRaleighLiberal Mar 2020 #21
It's been linear on a log scale for days jberryhill Mar 2020 #26
Ok, I did not notice that. The line deflecting upward on the last Blue_true Mar 2020 #29
Or noise jberryhill Mar 2020 #30
I've been using that site and the one by 1.3 Acres misanthrope Mar 2020 #6
There are sick people who don't know that they are sick, or who suspected Blue_true Mar 2020 #22
We've already blown past Iran, Loving: Leghorn21 Mar 2020 #7
Sad.. LovingA2andMI Mar 2020 #10
We're a larger Nation. rockfordfile Mar 2020 #8
And Trump is doing a HORRIBLE JOB... LovingA2andMI Mar 2020 #11
China is like 4x our size and their number took a while to reach 30,000. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #23
Precious time was wasted because we have a malignant idiot in the White House. dalton99a Mar 2020 #12
Yes. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #24
+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #27
Mississippi and Florida certainly aren't helping things. Initech Mar 2020 #31
My mom is a retired nursing professor and dean of a nursing school. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #13
Confirmed cases, real cases are so much greater uppityperson Mar 2020 #14
We're likely already number 1 in the world. Azathoth Mar 2020 #17
Fair Point.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2020 #20
When China had maybe 2,000 confirmed infections, the leaders there completely Blue_true Mar 2020 #25
And he's still gaslighting. captain queeg Mar 2020 #28

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. We are larger, but given the purposeful sloth like response by Trump,
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:25 PM
Mar 2020

we could have many thousands of of identified people out spreading the virus. We hit the tipping point a few days ago, those of you that saw a graph someone posted here on DU should gave seen the latest days of that graph starting to bend more sharply upward, that marked the point when this thing went from a rapidly rising straight line to an exponential, now it is truly in the exponential growth phase, each undetected sick person is making multiple people sick on each group interaction situation.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
5. my prediction...
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 09:15 PM
Mar 2020

we will be at more than 27,000 tomorrow, 38,000 Monday, 53,000 Tues.

The multiplier has been a pretty consistent 1.4.(meaning take the # of cases at the end of the day and multiply by 1.4 and you get the total we will be at end of the following day). Sobering...depressing.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. Maybe it was you who posted the graph a couple days ago.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:41 PM
Mar 2020

If you looked closely at the last four dates on that graph, you should have noticed the delta in day to day infections increasing faster. In my experience, what the appearance of those last few data points indicated was that the infection rate was no longer following a straight line that could be described by a multiple (or slope). The points, to me, indicated that the rate was moving into exponential growth territory, we are almost surely there now. Because of the dearth of testing and issues like unethical exposure of healthcare workers, each infected person, whether he or she know it or not, is infecting multiple people per day.

The data that was posted was for people that got infected when Trump could have contained the virus. Containment was broken at least two weeks ago and a lot of infected people either don't know that they are infected, or were turned away from getting a test. I wouldn't be surprised to see daily numbers changing by a power of an exponential, in that case, daily infection numbers could, in reality (assuming a competent testing process), be going up by dramatic amounts.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
19. I didn't post the graph. But the numbers I list do describe the graph
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:43 PM
Mar 2020

it is doing the hockey stick shape thing.

Today actually went up a slightly lesser percent than yesterday- not atypical in something so imprecise on so many levels (as you describe). I am sure we will see this jump in fits and starts.

good comments - thanks

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. Ok, I did not notice that. The line deflecting upward on the last
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:52 PM
Mar 2020

four points (from the graph I looked at earlier this week) implies that the situation is likely very bad now.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. Or noise
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:58 PM
Mar 2020

As you mention, the testing itself has been spotty.

You can find segments of higher or lower slope.

But, yeah... increasing slope on a log scale - whoa.

misanthrope

(7,427 posts)
6. I've been using that site and the one by 1.3 Acres
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 09:18 PM
Mar 2020

The latter of those tends to update quicker and specifically cites their sources for cases. They have the current count at 19,504, a minimal difference. Yesterday, I thought we would hit 20,000 before Monday. Now, I think we might hit it before Sunday evening.

The more folks are tested, the quicker these numbers will grow. As far as hospitalizations, I don't have a precise number but it looks as if those are about to accelerate over the coming week.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. There are sick people who don't know that they are sick, or who suspected
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:48 PM
Mar 2020

they were sick but got turned away from testing, who have been infecting other people for several weeks in some cases. So we have no idea where this thing is at. China shut down an entire region within a few weeks, Trump has let this thing spread to the entire country, there are multiple hot spots and the number of them will only grow.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. My mom is a retired nursing professor and dean of a nursing school.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 09:53 PM
Mar 2020

She is also a republican. Even she said that this is going to get much worse before it gets better.

Which is interesting because she is going with the science over the right-wing propaganda. She is not one to over-react. But if she is worried, and actually ADMITS it, then that means this is very serious. She has almost always sided with Trump on most things, but not on this.

She has two asthmatic grandchildren and she is terrified for them.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
17. We're likely already number 1 in the world.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

We've had major community transmission on both coasts for God knows how long. It's been absolutely unchecked here up till a week ago. Our moron in chief was patting himself on the back because our numbers weren't like Europe's, when in fact they were as bad or worse.

We'll never test enough people to know how widespread it is.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
20. Fair Point....
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 10:44 PM
Mar 2020

And likely right considering this virus has been in the US since January 2020 and maybe as early as late December 2019.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. When China had maybe 2,000 confirmed infections, the leaders there completely
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

locked down a region of 50 million people. A couple weeks later they locked down another 15 million people. During that time China was ramping up it's testing all across China.

Trump has let this virus move among 350 million people freely for at least two months. Our true infection number is likely off the charts at this point.

captain queeg

(10,240 posts)
28. And he's still gaslighting.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:33 PM
Mar 2020

It’s bad enough an egotistical fool is in charge but apparently there’s still a large swath of the population that believes he’s doing a good job. Hopefully a whole bunch of them will be out of commission by the next election.

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