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Liberal In Texas

(13,574 posts) Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:40 AM Mar 2020

Elon Musk: Should Have 1000 Ventilators Next Week, + 250,000 N95 Masks For Hospitals Tomorrow --

“We have 250k N95 masks. Aiming to start distributing those to hospitals tomorrow night. Should have over 1000 ventilators by next week.”

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/03/21/elon-musk-should-have-1000-ventilators-next-week-250k-n95-masks-for-hospitals-tomorrow-cleantechnica-exclusive/

I think we need to "go over the head" of the administration. Democrats (and especially our presumptive nominee Joe Biden) should be actively contacting private companies to change over their production methods to make vital medical gear. If necessary promise them repayment next year after Trump gets sent packing.

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Elon Musk: Should Have 1000 Ventilators Next Week, + 250,000 N95 Masks For Hospitals Tomorrow -- (Original Post) Liberal In Texas Mar 2020 OP

The MSM is too focused on the N95 mask shortage effects Shermann Mar 2020 #1

Probably supply chain bottleneck + hoarders. CousinIT Mar 2020 #8

I don't think a mask is terribly complicated to manufacture Shermann Mar 2020 #9

The bottleneck is the killer in chief and people need to quit calling on the gov't to help Hestia Mar 2020 #16

Project Runway Fashion Designer Christian Siriano is using his NYC Zoonart Mar 2020 #2

Love that child. Squinch Mar 2020 #4

Me too. Zoonart Mar 2020 #6

Those mask numbers are a tiny part of what is necessary. Progressive dog Mar 2020 #3

I wonder how long it took to produce them and when the next batch is up. Squinch Mar 2020 #5

#2 billionaire steps up ... ancianita Mar 2020 #7

Hope drumpf doesn't misappropriate these for ICE as well, the mother killer. lark Mar 2020 #10

Do not distribute through the government. mfcorey1 Mar 2020 #11

+1 mdelaguna Mar 2020 #13

Production staff need to be at their work stations. jaxexpat Mar 2020 #12

What happened to this being "dumb", Elon? NickB79 Mar 2020 #14

I have zero use for Elon Musk lonely bird Mar 2020 #21

This narrative about no one is mfg ventilators need to be swept to the curb Hestia Mar 2020 #15

Trump takes credit in 3...2...1 CanonRay Mar 2020 #17

good things are happening on ground evertonfc Mar 2020 #18

That's great, but this is disaster capitalism right out of Naomi Klein's book. The Federal PatrickforO Mar 2020 #19

Bookmarking to see how this pans out next week. bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #20

Donnie has pretty much told Governors to do just that. paleotn Mar 2020 #22

Shermann

(7,428 posts)

1. The MSM is too focused on the N95 mask shortage effects

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:50 AM

Mar 2020

...and not the causes. Where are the bottlenecks? I imagine a lot of these are manufactured overseas which would cause the supply chain to be cut off.

CousinIT

(9,257 posts)

8. Probably supply chain bottleneck + hoarders.

Reply to Shermann (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:35 AM

Mar 2020

I mean you can't find masks, gloves, or anything even in a store now. Experts have told people to stop hoarding them because our font-line medical personnel need them. And Trump just did nothing but wave it off.

But Americans are exceedingly selfish and stupid - and hoarded anyway. Too many of them voted for and also still support Trump.

So here we are.

Shermann

(7,428 posts)

9. I don't think a mask is terribly complicated to manufacture

Reply to CousinIT (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:50 AM

Mar 2020

But if all the production was moved overseas it could really be an issue when there are only weeks to work with.

This type of risk to national security has already been identified in a variety of sectors, including steel and aluminum.

Again, it would be better to focus on solutions.

Hestia

(3,818 posts)

16. The bottleneck is the killer in chief and people need to quit calling on the gov't to help

Reply to Shermann (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:43 AM

Mar 2020

them - they aren't coming!

Almost everyday this week, the killer has stated that state gov't need to do the work of getting supplies because it is not his administrations job to do this.

I wonder if there is anyone left in GSA to issue PO's or however that works. Someone needs to go in and give blanket POs and just start emailing or whatever.

Beg forgiveness and not permission. General Honoree' from Katrina had some good ideas on Lawrence O'Donnell's show (Ali Beshar sitting in).

It's time for out of the box & creative thinking. First would be to go directly to mfg who already have these capabilities and go from there. Why is everyone wanting to create these type of mfg from whole cloth when they already exist.

I still think it's for everyone up there to buy stock. The GOP sell off last month is just the tip of the iceberg.

As Always, YMMV

Zoonart

(11,878 posts)

2. Project Runway Fashion Designer Christian Siriano is using his NYC

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:53 AM

Mar 2020

couture team to manufacture masks and is leading other designers to do the same.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/coronavirus-christian-siriano-face-masks-andrew-cuomo

Squinch

(51,004 posts)

4. Love that child.

Reply to Zoonart (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:14 AM

Mar 2020

Zoonart

(11,878 posts)

6. Me too.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:24 AM

Mar 2020

Progressive dog

(6,918 posts)

3. Those mask numbers are a tiny part of what is necessary.

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:09 AM

Mar 2020

One government study from 2015, though, estimated that 1.7 billion to 3.5 billion such masks would be needed in a pandemic—and that was in its most optimistic scenario.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/going-war-butter-knife/608428/
The dotard has to be forced to act, people and companies making PPE have to eat and pay their bills now.

Squinch

(51,004 posts)

5. I wonder how long it took to produce them and when the next batch is up.

Reply to Progressive dog (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:15 AM

Mar 2020

ancianita

(36,133 posts)

7. #2 billionaire steps up ...

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:33 AM

Mar 2020

...but who's counting.

lark

(23,155 posts)

10. Hope drumpf doesn't misappropriate these for ICE as well, the mother killer.

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:58 AM

Mar 2020

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)

11. Do not distribute through the government.

Reply to lark (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:13 AM

Mar 2020

mdelaguna

(471 posts)

13. +1

Reply to mfcorey1 (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:14 AM

Mar 2020

jaxexpat

(6,849 posts)

12. Production staff need to be at their work stations.

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:14 AM

Mar 2020

How does self quarantine and social distancing work in manufacturing facilities? Can't make masks unless you wear one?
Be sure to wipe the gas pump handle before you fill up on your way to work. Clean your credit card.

NickB79

(19,258 posts)

14. What happened to this being "dumb", Elon?

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:19 AM

Mar 2020

How quickly you seem to have seen the light.

lonely bird

(1,688 posts)

21. I have zero use for Elon Musk

Reply to NickB79 (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:00 AM

Mar 2020

He is as much a publicity hound as Drumpf with an ego as large.

Btw, “should have” doesn’t translate as “will have” or “do have”.

Hestia

(3,818 posts)

15. This narrative about no one is mfg ventilators need to be swept to the curb

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:33 AM

Mar 2020

GM & Ford do not need to retrofit their mfg plants - they already exist

List of Mfg - https://meticulousblog.org/top-10-companies-in-global-ventilators-market/

https://www.massdevice.com/how-are-u-s-based-ventilator-companies-doing

This week, Medtronic (NYSE:MDT) announced that it will double its capacity to manufacture and supply ventilators. The Fridley, Minn.-based company doubled the number of shifts in manufacturing ventilators at its Galway, Ireland, manufacturing facility, bringing it to a 24/7 operation as additional staff is being transferred from other Medtronic sites to increase activities, according to a news release. The company said it is prioritizing high-risk/high-need areas for ventilator allocation on a weekly basis, but is monitoring the situation as it unfolds.

https://www.massdevice.com/major-u-s-manufacturers-answering-call-for-ventilator-needs/

Major U.S. manufacturers answering call for ventilator needs
MARCH 19, 2020 BY SEAN WHOOLEY

News broke this week that Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York is reportedly experiencing shortages of masks and other protective equipment, and it is not alone in that regard. Last week, reports claimed that some U.S. hospitals were facing short supplies of N95 respirator masks from 3M (NYSE:MMM). The company said in a news release on March 2 that its plant in Aberdeen, S.D., is running around the clock producing the masks.

At a coronavirus task force press conference this week, Vice President Mike Pence also asked construction companies to donate to their local hospitals their stocks of N95 respirator masks and stop ordering more for the time being. Yesterday, President Donald Drumpf announced that he is invoking the Defense Production Act, a Korean War–era law that enables government actions to boost needed supplies.

In response to the several reports of shortages amid the coronavirus crisis, Medtronic (NYSE:MDT) announced late last night that it is set to double its capacity to manufacture and supply ventilators

https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/2020/03/19/coronavirus-palm-springs-ventilator-manufacturer-works-ease-shortage-caused-pandemic/2878865001/

Coronavirus: Palm Springs ventilator manufacturer works to ease shortage caused by pandemic
Christopher Damien, Palm Springs Desert SunPublished 6:34 p.m. PT March 19, 2020 | Updated 8:27 p.m. PT March 19, 2020

While Palm Springs is quiet in light of the shelter-in-place order that limits all but a few essential businesses from normal operations in hopes of curbing the local spread of the coronavirus, much-needed ventilators continue to be produced in a nondescript facility a stone’s throw from The Desert Sun newsroom.

The breathing machines are packed into wooden shipping boxes slated to be sent to medical facilities around the world — but not before the boxes are stamped with sober advisories of the fragile cargo inside:

CanonRay

(14,113 posts)

17. Trump takes credit in 3...2...1

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:45 AM

Mar 2020

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)

18. good things are happening on ground

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:50 AM

Mar 2020

the media will always be doom and gloom. I've turned the news off.

PatrickforO

(14,587 posts)

19. That's great, but this is disaster capitalism right out of Naomi Klein's book. The Federal

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:53 AM

Mar 2020

Government should be coordinating this show, not guys like Elon Musk.

Oh, this IS good news. And other good news - lots of manufacturers are stepping up. Governors are stepping up. Local governments.

BUT THERE'S NO CENTRAL LEADERSHIP BECAUSE TRUMP IS INCAPABLE OF THAT.

We have a president who manages by chaos AND THAT ISN'T WHAT IS NEEDED NOW.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)

20. Bookmarking to see how this pans out next week.

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:58 AM

Mar 2020

paleotn

(17,956 posts)

22. Donnie has pretty much told Governors to do just that.

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:09 AM

Mar 2020

"don't talk to me...go take care of yourselves." Now THAT'S leadership.

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