Maybe they should stage a protest.

What are they going to if they fire these people?

after the ones that follow orders get infected and have to quarantine.

To be clear, We have many isolation patients we gown and mask for.

They was a nurse originally from China, who brought her own masks and was told not to wear them. She was extremely anxious, terrified really and wanted to protect herself.

The idea is or WAS we don’t want patient thinking they are being cared for by sick nurses or doctors.



Right now we are conserving all our PPEs. I had to use an old fashioned tie mask this morning. We are telling patients to reuse their masks. We went back to cloth gowns that are washable. We have reusable googles.

Some units are no longer isolating for MRSA or VRE, as long as it’s not in a wound.

All elective surgeries are cancelled.

We are not allowing visitors except in certain cases, and then it’s one person at a time.

My hospital made their own hand sanitizer.

Wishing you stay safe.

The ban on wearing masks is "outside of patient rooms." I read the title, as I am sure most did, to mean they were being told to interact with patients without masks.

We all know the danger does is not limited to patient rooms - BUT - it is orders of magnitude different to be theatened with discipline for not wearing a mask when visiting a pitent with known COVIC 19 v. being threatened with discipline for wearing a mask outside of the presence of a known infection vector.

I guess we have to buy protective gear for when we go to the doctor so they can use it while they help us individually.

I would be more scared to see them with no protection. Next they are not going to allow antiseptic.

I keep forgetting that some people do not understand dark sarcasm. I apologize if I offended you I will try harder to not use dark sarcasm.

But DU has a solution! Signal it so your intentions do not get misconstrued.

Like this:

I didn't catch that (perhaps because of some of the other content in the string?) .. and I am usually not so totally tone deaf. Satire is a useful tool! My bad. And I'm sorry for jumping on your back.

Sometimes we just can't see something for what it really is.

Nurses are controlling the masks supply.

MDs and medicine residents are having to beg to get masks from them. Our union rep is meeting nursing union rep tomorrow to understand why they think they have supreme ownership of the masks.

yes indeed

This is serious. Not wearing PPE helps people continue with their norm bias mentality.
I would not want anyone near me in medicine who was not wearing a mask. And ideally gloves if they touched me.

The time to be duly alarmed came weeks ago.

You seriously think you can analyze the policy better than the hospital administrators who are trying to handle a dire situation.
They are telling people not to waste the limited resources by wearing them outside.

these supplies belong to the hospital (or whomever) .. and they're responsible for distributing them (in a time of shortages?), where they feel they can be most effective. That would seem to be somewhat normal in any any organization, or any facility. I would not automatically assume that these directives had no underlying thought or motivation behind them. And .. in almost any organization .. if you have staff running around ignoring the procedures and just doing as they please ...

and plop them down in the middle of the triage area, without PPE. Let them get infected first.

Or wipe their hands all over the desk, table , chairs, water bottle, etc in the office where they are being disciplined.

None of this makes sense, so my response doesn't either.

a hospital that ignores best practices. This is incredibly sad.

The contamination ZONE is the room. When exiting a ROOM all contaminated gear is disposed to prevent the contamination of the hallways. Much gear will be tossed but the clean zone will be maintained. This is common ANTI CONTAMINATION procedure. People just do not understand good practices versus "running" wild and spread contamination. Wake up people and utilize "critical thinking" out there in wonderland......

I wish people would read all of a post before they write their idiotic "They are trying to kill us all" posts.

Don't take the potentially contaminated items into the common areas or into other patient's rooms.

I think that the original tweets just misunderstood what was being asked, and the extract from the guidelines seems to make it clear that these items should not be worn when exiting the room of an infected person.

The OP should delete.

Stupidity runs rampant everywhere

Many will put the health of their families first and many have underlying conditions so they feel extraordinarily at risk.

KY

Oh right, we have a new king now and his OSHA people shit on all regulations. For CORP prophet. As a retired college science educator, our labs had intense safety regs and students had to be protected at all costs. OSHA surprised visited multiple times a year. Guess trump hospital CEO for prophet pigs are exempt. MAGA! We'll see what happens.

They claim it causes more spreading.
I dont know but that's the rumor.

Thanks fuckin Republipests.

My son's GF is an ICU nurse and one day was told to go down to the ER and distribute COVID pamphlets (or similar) to the patients who were ill and coughing. She was told no mask, don't want to panic the public. She refused and left.

She went home and complained to hospital administration and was pulled back into the ICU. With masks in extremely short supply, she was then taking care of very ill patients there with no mask. She's quite afraid, understandably so.