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RandySF

(58,911 posts)
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:18 AM Mar 2020

Most Grand Princess passengers in quarantine refused coronavirus tests --often at federal officials'

Despite assurances from Vice President Mike Pence that all Grand Princess cruise ship passengers quarantined at Travis Air Force Base would be tested for COVID-19, The Chronicle has learned that two-thirds of them have declined, often at the encouragement of federal health officials.

As of Wednesday, 568 of the 858 passengers screened while confined turned down the test, a federal official familiar with the Travis quarantine and testing told The Chronicle. The low testing numbers align with what passengers were told by officials during a Tuesday afternoon teleconference, citing a 30% acceptance rate for the novel coronavirus test, several passengers told The Chronicle.

“These folks know they are in a 14-day quarantine, if they test positive they are further delayed until they test negative,” said the official, who The Chronicle agreed not to name because they were not authorized to speak to the media, in accordance with the paper’s ethics policy. “They don’t want to stay. They want to be released.”

Those who spoke to The Chronicle said federal health officials dissuaded them from taking the test, saying if they had no symptoms during the mandatory 14-day quarantine, a test was unnecessary. The federal official and cruise passengers also said the test compliance would have been higher had tests been available to administer shortly after they were removed from the ship and sent to the base.



https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Most-Grand-Princess-passengers-not-tested-for-15141731.php

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Most Grand Princess passengers in quarantine refused coronavirus tests --often at federal officials' (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2020 OP
remarkable, these passengers are heroes Demonaut Mar 2020 #1
How? BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #2
Travelers are not spreading it in Thailand where I live. Paka Mar 2020 #3
All good steps. pat_k Mar 2020 #5
Yes. Refusing test because you might be quarantined longer if positive is being a selfish fvck. pat_k Mar 2020 #4
Claims that passengers refused the tests seems misleading, if they were told LisaL Mar 2020 #6
You're right. Reporting is ambiguous... pat_k Mar 2020 #8
Is heroes a euphemism for assholes? denbot Mar 2020 #7

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
2. How?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:00 AM
Mar 2020

By refusing testing they are going to infect others. No one knows how long you are a carrier. Mandatory testing and lock down of every single person is needed now in every country. We will see more waves infecting countries like what is happening now in Singapore, who had it contained. Travelers are spreading it globally.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
3. Travelers are not spreading it in Thailand where I live.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:27 AM
Mar 2020

Thailand is now requiring any in coming persons to have a medical certificate of clearance. Self quarantine is working well and the number of cases are not spiking. There are few people in public places with stores and restaurants open, but limiting the number of people allowed in at any one time. Tests are available at all hospitals and my bank is offering Covid-19 insurance coverage for about $20 which means anyone who is infected will not be afraid to go to hospital for fear of costs.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
5. All good steps.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:52 AM
Mar 2020

The people from the ship should likewise be required to be medically cleared (i.e., test negative) before leaving quarantine.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
4. Yes. Refusing test because you might be quarantined longer if positive is being a selfish fvck.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:49 AM
Mar 2020

Yeah. Hurry home. Infect your loved ones.

I just don't get this mentality.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. Claims that passengers refused the tests seems misleading, if they were told
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:56 AM
Mar 2020

tests were not necessary if they didn't have symptoms.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
8. You're right. Reporting is ambiguous...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:37 AM
Mar 2020

I zeroed in on this:

“These folks know they are in a 14-day quarantine, if they test positive they are further delayed until they test negative,” said the official, who The Chronicle agreed not to name because they were not authorized to speak to the media, in accordance with the paper’s ethics policy. “They don’t want to stay. They want to be released.”


The anonymous official may be projecting "don't want to stay" as a reason for refusal onto more passengers than it actually applies to.

I still find the official's general impression that "don't want to stay" is one of the foremost reasons for refusing disturbing.
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