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Is anyone else worried about a run on the banks? (Original Post) Alwaysna Mar 2020 OP
Welcome Back to DU RandiFan1290 Mar 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Aquaria Mar 2020 #8
The thought has cross our minds... EarthFirst Mar 2020 #2
If the economy falters, the real currency will transform into hard to get necessities. TheBlackAdder Mar 2020 #16
I've got the barter thing covered Victor_c3 Mar 2020 #41
A Mad Max Truck? Why are you separated? She would be a keeper! TheBlackAdder Mar 2020 #44
You bring up a good point... Victor_c3 Mar 2020 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Alwaysna Mar 2020 #3
No. Read this from FDIC. Arkansas Granny Mar 2020 #4
Hit that link, & read 3rd line from top..."All accounts insured up to $250,000...by FDIC.. Stuart G Mar 2020 #25
What they will not talk about Chainfire Mar 2020 #49
Lots of the remaining businesses are discouraging cash transactions Recursion Mar 2020 #5
Cash? What's cash? C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #13
It may be toilet paper Shermann Mar 2020 #14
Buttcoin? Sneederbunk Mar 2020 #30
Groan! Arkansas Granny Mar 2020 #42
No. Voltaire2 Mar 2020 #6
The black helicopters are out and about raining down money, denem Mar 2020 #7
Not really Aquaria Mar 2020 #9
I've thought about taking some money out, just in case. blueinredohio Mar 2020 #10
You may need cash Chainfire Mar 2020 #11
This is a Bug In situation, not a Bug Out Shermann Mar 2020 #12
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #15
That is uncalled for. My grandparents lost their life savings when Alwaysna Mar 2020 #19
My post was a response to a post by PubliusEnigma accusing me of being a Russian troll. Alwaysna Mar 2020 #22
There it is....SAVINGS which doesn't exist today Under The Radar Mar 2020 #29
LOL tenderfoot Mar 2020 #17
Not at all madville Mar 2020 #18
My bank closed all branches inside marlakay Mar 2020 #20
Is there a risk of the electrical grid going down? zackymilly Mar 2020 #21
People will lose a lot of money if power goes out jimfields33 Mar 2020 #31
Most stores still have the old Aquaria Mar 2020 #33
No, absolutely not..All accounts insured up to $250,000. by FDIC..(Federal Deposit Insurance Corp) Stuart G Mar 2020 #23
local stores have been limiting the amount of "cash back". Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #24
How about the Money Market in your Mutual Fund exboyfil Mar 2020 #26
Stopped in to Rural King there is a run on guns doc03 Mar 2020 #27
I'm actually a little scared to touch money at this point. OhZone Mar 2020 #28
It is not a bad Idea to keep some cash around Chainfire Mar 2020 #32
We keep some cash on hand Aquaria Mar 2020 #38
Not trying to hijack the thread or anything, but if MIRT needs more volunteers... TygrBright Mar 2020 #34
What is MIRT? Alwaysna Mar 2020 #35
No idea. Aquaria Mar 2020 #39
I saw what you did there. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 nolabear Mar 2020 #45
cash is about as useful as a rotary dial phone DBoon Mar 2020 #36
I have long thought that the people who go totally cashless are idiots. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #37
People go mostly cashless because it's safer Aquaria Mar 2020 #40
Hotels normally do not take cash. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #43
I was not all concerned about a run on the banks until Chainfire Mar 2020 #47
No. Why do you ask? MineralMan Mar 2020 #48

Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #1)

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
2. The thought has cross our minds...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 06:57 AM
Mar 2020

We took limited precautions last week and made a modest withdrawal just to play it safe.

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)
16. If the economy falters, the real currency will transform into hard to get necessities.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:21 AM
Mar 2020

.

This is one of the objectives of these hoarders, have to make a quick profit, use for barter currency later.

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Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
41. I've got the barter thing covered
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:51 PM
Mar 2020

I’ve got an ex-wife that I’m only legally separated from. I figure I could barter her off for a couple of goats, some chickens, and maybe a mad-max truck.

Now I just need to get a gang on meth-heads that wear leather and I’ll be set. It’ll be just like in any good post apocalyptic movie.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
46. You bring up a good point...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:18 PM
Mar 2020

She left me to go pursue a relationship with a guy who was a high school crush of hers nearly 30 years ago. They reconnected on Facebook. We were married 2 months short of 14 years.

About 10 years ago she turned nasty and mean and became straight up abusive both mentally and physically to me and our kids. I was going to stick it out until my kids graduated from school as I was the sole source of income and without me, their mother wouldn’t have health insurance and pretty much live in poverty. Despite her having a masters degree in sociology and anthropology, she’s incapable of making more than $15 an hour.

I couldn’t be happier that she left me when she did. My life has done a full 180 degree turn for the better - and I don’t feel guilty for saying that because she’s the one who initiated the divorce.

Response to Alwaysna (Original post)

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
25. Hit that link, & read 3rd line from top..."All accounts insured up to $250,000...by FDIC..
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020

Insured, means like life insurance. If something happens, and the bank runs out of money, then you get your money. ........ period, nada, end of discussion.

and YES, THE FDIC IS HONEST (NOT LIKE TRUMP)
...BANKS HAVE GONE BROKE, STOLE MONEY, ETC......AND ............................................

......all people who had money in the bank got all money back, up to $250,000.

..........again, this is ...NOT.. Mr. Trump......let me say again...(short form)... ALL IS ALL

....WHY?...This was passed to prevent ........RUNS ON BANKS....There is something similar at Savings and Loan institutions.. Insured up to $250,000

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
49. What they will not talk about
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:32 AM
Mar 2020

Is if the computer system is attacked, say by a foreign power, getting access to those fully insured funds may take a while.
I am not overly concerned about that, but it is not beyond the realm of possibility.

In a week to ten days, our country is going to be in the most vulnerable position it has been in since the Civil War. What a grand time for one of our many enemies to play with our infrastructure. You can bet that some of them are thinking about it. It would bring a great deal of satisfaction to many people in the world to see the Great USA brought down a notch or two.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Lots of the remaining businesses are discouraging cash transactions
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 07:23 AM
Mar 2020

As long as that lasts it's not really a worry

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
9. Not really
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 07:36 AM
Mar 2020

A shocking amount of people barely know what cash looks like anymore, never mind how to count it and use it. Some places, they look at the stuff like it's a forgotten civilization's ancient relic that has a plaque nearby that reads: Use unknown.

Anybody spotted a cashier who knew how to count back change to you? Think that last happened in, oh, 1995 or so.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
10. I've thought about taking some money out, just in case.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 07:51 AM
Mar 2020

I don't have a debit card, pay my bills by check and buy whatever I may need during the month with cash. The thought has occurrvd what if I need food and can't get any money out of the bank.

Shermann

(7,423 posts)
12. This is a Bug In situation, not a Bug Out
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:13 AM
Mar 2020

So cash is of relatively limited value. That's not to say a small stack for the bug out bag isn't apropos.

Response to Alwaysna (Original post)

Alwaysna

(574 posts)
19. That is uncalled for. My grandparents lost their life savings when
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:05 PM
Mar 2020

Their bank in Kansas failed in the 70's.
My husband died 3 years ago from a stroke. I took care of him at home for 6 months before he passed. He was profoundly deaf and couldn't communicate at all. My income is social security as I'm a disabled widow with 2 kids. My concern is genuine. The markets crashed during the depression and then the banks failed. Not so long ago the safeguards to prevent this were weaked by Trump and etal.
My parents were born in 1928 and 1929 and passed some of their thriftiness to me. I already had a stash of food and supplies. I live 12 miles from town so I try to stay stocked up .
I believe you owe me an apology.

Alwaysna

(574 posts)
22. My post was a response to a post by PubliusEnigma accusing me of being a Russian troll.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

I guess they removed their post but felt an apology wasn't appropriate!

madville

(7,412 posts)
18. Not at all
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:36 AM
Mar 2020

Most Americans have less than $1,000 cash in the bank. Rich ones will be buying up corporate stock on the cheap with their liquid cash as this bottoms out. Anyone that paranoid about a banking collapse wouldn't trust the banks to hold their money begin with.

marlakay

(11,471 posts)
20. My bank closed all branches inside
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:09 PM
Mar 2020

Drive up only but they have tellers you can see by video, you can make a appt if you need to come in. I wouldn’t want to touch those canisters though so i will do everything online.

I normally take out cash on the first, easier for me not to spend it all with ATM, but next month going back to CC and ATM with wipes in my purse.

Thank god we can do most bills online now.

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
21. Is there a risk of the electrical grid going down?
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:15 PM
Mar 2020

I keep cash on hand because I live in the boonies and if we lose power, it's sometimes for over a week.
A lot of stores without backup power then switch to cash-only sales because their card readers and cash registers don't work.
You'd be surprised how many cashiers don't know how to figure out how much change you should get back without the register telling them.

jimfields33

(15,820 posts)
31. People will lose a lot of money if power goes out
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:14 PM
Mar 2020

The meat departments are whipped out in the four I went to today. I needed eggs big time. Finally the fourth store had some. I had to go through two cartons before I found one without a cracked egg.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
33. Most stores still have the old
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:17 PM
Mar 2020

Physical triplicate forms that they can fill out if the power goes down. Used to, the CC companies required retailers to retain a supply of them for power outages, or when computers get glitches, but I’m not sure how true that is anymore.

Had a power outage at my husband’s store a couple of years ago, and the mgmt had those old forms in the cashiers’ hands within five minutes.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
23. No, absolutely not..All accounts insured up to $250,000. by FDIC..(Federal Deposit Insurance Corp)
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:00 PM
Mar 2020

...What does that mean? It means if the bank looses all its money for any reason, if your account is less than $250,000, the federal government will replace your loss....by law it must

...After the run on the banks in the 30s they passed this law....Gradually they have raised the amount that will be replaced. As far back as I can remember, in the 50s, it was $50,000...Now it is up to $250.000.

...The very last thing we need is a "run on the banks." And yes, banks have gone broke, and Yes, the FDIC has covered all losses up to that limit.


....There is no need to run to the bank, accounts are insured...Your money is covered (up to $250,000)

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
26. How about the Money Market in your Mutual Fund
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:11 PM
Mar 2020

That is the best near cash option you have for your 401k/IRA retirement savings. Money markets got distressed in 2008, and I heard the Fed took steps to buttress it now.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
32. It is not a bad Idea to keep some cash around
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:17 PM
Mar 2020

An attack, or just a failure of the web could have all of your money locked up beyond your reach until the system was up. Everyone has to decide how much cash "insurance" they need. I keep a grand in 20s in my fire safe. It is increasing faster there than in the savings account, because, in my safe, at least it gathers dust.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
38. We keep some cash on hand
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:34 PM
Mar 2020

About $20-50, for minor stuff. Easier to buy Girl Scout cookies with cash. 😁

But there’s also stuff like the occasions when I would be out and about, used up my water bottle and needed a recharge. I hated using my card for one bottle of water at a convenience store, or a fast food soda.

Or when we did takeout and tipped the driver directly.

Cash still works best for all that.

We used to keep a bigger emergency cash hoard tucked away, until we wound up with 3 credit union accounts—mine before we married, his before we married, and then the one that came much later with the car payment after we married. We use mine as the primary account, his as rainy day #1 and the 3rd as rainy day #2, AKA, “Crap we had that unexpected expense, now we’re broke need groceries what do we do—wait a minute! Account #3! I forgot about that one!”

Poor Account#3, our redheaded stepchild of emergency finance.

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
34. Not trying to hijack the thread or anything, but if MIRT needs more volunteers...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

...just do a shout-out, guys.

A lot of us have more time on our hands now, and it looks like the need for experienced troll-hunters is escalating exponentially, too.

helpfully,
Bright

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
36. cash is about as useful as a rotary dial phone
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:24 PM
Mar 2020

Now if ApplerPay went down, you might have a real problem

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
37. I have long thought that the people who go totally cashless are idiots.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:26 PM
Mar 2020

I pay for all of my day-to-day stuff like groceries, restaurants, and the like, with cash.

About a year and a half ago I got caught in an ice storm in Boise City, OK. There was no power in the city, and the roads out in any direction were closed. I was able to get lunch at a cafe which had its own generator. I then drove to one of the two motels in town and pleaded with the manager to let me have a room so I wouldn't be sleeping in my car overnight. As we were talking, the power miraculously came back on. He'd already told me that the owner had advised him to close up completely with no power, but now he knew he could stay open. But his credit card machine still wasn't back on. So, because I always have some cash with me, I offered $50.00 cash for a room, knowing he'd probably keep it to himself. I didn't care. He countered with $60.00 and we had a deal.

So yeah, having some cash is always a good idea.

When I'm travelling I will have a bit more with me than when I'm home.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
40. People go mostly cashless because it's safer
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:46 PM
Mar 2020

If you lose your wallet or forget it somewhere, you can call your card company right away and get the card off the grid. Some of us can even turn off our cards ourselves now. And turn them back on again if we find that misplaced wallet under our sofa. Yep, there’s an app for that.

If you had cash in your wallet when you lost it while out of the house, kiss it goodbye. It’s gone.

I wouldn’t pay for anything except the hotel room and the occasional low-dollar fast food/convenience store purchase. Too risky to flash cash.

BTW: I tried to pay cash for a hotel room only last month, but couldn’t. They no longer take cash, for security reasons. So I had to use my debit card, anyway. It’s getting ever harder to find places that accept the stuff.

So while I agree that keeping some cash on hand is a good thing, I get why so many go cashless.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
43. Hotels normally do not take cash.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020

My experience was a rare exception and worked because the manager saw a way to keep some extra money for himself. My offer would not have worked at a chain motel. It worked because it was a small town locally owned one.

I don't spend a lot of time worrying about being robbed or losing my wallet.

I've noticed that the people who are totally cashless wind up squandering money when they want to buy some small item and there's a minimum to use a debit or charge card. So they buy something additional.

What I like about my cash system is that it's far easier to manage my money than in an earlier time when I used the charge card more freely. At the beginning of every week I take a fixed sum out of the bank. About half of it goes into envelopes labelled Entertainment, Clothing, Health & Well Being, Christmas Club, and Miscellaneous. If I want to go to a movie or out with friends, I see how much is in the Entertainment envelope. I can borrow from the Miscellaneous envelope, of course. But if that's empty, too bad for me. The cash that doesn't go into one of the envelopes is my grocery and walking around money.

I started doing this a few years ago when my income was severely limited, and it's been wonderful. I will put certain large purchases (like when I recently got a new computer) on a credit card. Because I think someone who does not have a credit card is probably making a mistake. If you literally never go anywhere, never need to rent a car or get a hotel room, and perhaps don't even own a car so you don't ever have to worry about some sudden repair expense, then you can do without one. Otherwise, even if only for a rare emergency, you should have one.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
47. I was not all concerned about a run on the banks until
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:25 AM
Mar 2020

I listened to the head of one of the Federal Banks on 60 Minutes last night. He appeared to be concerned about it. If he is concerned I wonder if I should be. He tried to be reassuring by suggesting that banks were safe because, if necessary, the Fed could print, (his words, not mine) "infinite" amounts of money to cover bank withdrawals.

(I think I may hit the ATM again today. After all, the money makes as much interest under my mattress as it does in my credit union account.)

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
48. No. Why do you ask?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 09:32 AM
Mar 2020

Are you trying to start one?

The reality is that many banks have closed their inside branch operations. You can used the drive-through window, though.

TIP: Sanitize your hands with hand sanitizer after handling the document transfer carrier. Both times.

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