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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am wondering something about the need for hospital beds.
Why couldn't crowded hospitals and health centers use vinyl or leather recliners for ICU patients instead of beds.
An awful lot of people with lung issues sleep in them at home and many are quite comfortable - certainly more comfortable than hospital beds.
There are dozens of them in every furniture store in every town in American right now.
It strikes me that the biggest drawback would be that the patient would be too low for the doctors and nurses to treat them without hurting their own backs.
My solution for that would be to build simple raised platforms 8 to 10 inches high to set the recliners on.
Then all the home seamstresses could get busy and sew "covers" for these so they can be as fresh as possible.
Recliners are already in use at infusion centers and in recovery rooms at oral surgeons - or at least at my oral surgeon's.
I realize there is much more to an ICU station than the bed, but perhaps using existing recliners for the patients would be a start.
If I am missing something obvious, please enlighten me.
A nice Lane or Lazy-Boy recliner seems a lot more comfortable and useful than some of the beds they are using in Italy and other hard-hit areas.
What do you think?
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Plenty of that stuff around and more can be made. I like the creativity
Something else that occurred to me as I was doing some yardwork involving tarps: why can't tarps be made into PPE? I would think they would be ideal if cut properly and I guess they could be re-used.
It's so sad that we are considering these creative solutions, but desperate times....
janterry
(4,429 posts)on my lungs. So, I wondered about that, as well. From my non-medical (but asthmatic) perspective
this seems like a good idea.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)but the medical, support staff and supplies to care for the patients.
Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)it could be a start.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)They're not stationary devices.
Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)Wouldn't that work?
I don't think this is a perfect solution, but it beats the hell out of stacking people in the hallways.
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)But if a patient codes, hospital beds go flat, chairs don't. The bed height can be adjusted to accommodate for height of the patient or care givers. You can also raise the feet and lower the head, quickly for various medical reasons. In a bed the patient can be turned every few hours to lower the risk of bedsores, not so much in a chair.
If a patient needs to be moved to a different unit for emergency reasons, wheels come in handy. But also all the built in options on a bed. IE: you can attach IV's, oxygen and other support devises to the bed and move it as 1 unit instead of having someone push that along separately, trying to keep up. Say you have a patient /w 3 IV pumps and oxygen, you would need at least 4 people to move the patient. With a bed all that can be attached to the bed and only 1 or 2 people to transport, depending on the circumstances.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)They would sick during an emergency
Amishman
(5,557 posts)I had a friend in the ICU a few years back with pneumonia, the bed adjusted to keep her upper body partially elevated.
They are way ahead of you
Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)Obviously I was suggesting a stopgap solution for desperate hospitals, which I thought they were, or were about to be.
I hope no one thought I was trying to suggest a perfect solution.
From what I'm seeing on tv, they are getting desperate, and probably the most desperately ill would not be put in chairs! And I can't imagine they would put the most critically ill in a tent somewhere with makeshift equipment.
And whoever said they were way ahead of me -
Really? And me just sitting at my breakfast table down here in Texas, and I was sure I knew more than medical designers, and doctors and nurses.
Who do think I think I am? Donald Trump?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I would agree with your suggestion in a heartbeat!
I cant stand being flat on my back in a bed even without a broken shoulder lol. Always have pillows.
Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)I know mine, is incredibly comfortable.
I'm pretty sure it was less than $500, and it's either leather or a close approximation.
I bought it for my mother back when Macy's was Foley's.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)Actual beds are the least of the concern so much as space to put the patients in right now.
A hallway linked with gurneys is more mobile than one lined with recliners. But, it was a nice thought.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)It is the equipment and the staff that is going to be a problem.